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Roewyn
Learned Scribe
114 Posts |
 Posted - 25 Jan 2004 : 21:17:59
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But also being an genuine human character is fun.
Being an exciting individual in a boring population can be more fun than being ordinary in an exciting one. Furthermore humans are many in number but have little character patterns.
No restrictions and no patterns, you can be unique when you are a human and it is rare in a society that people tend to be the extraordinary shallow.
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jan 2004 : 21:26:50
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Humans are for the real world, not Toril. You want to be a human, live your normal life. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Roewyn
Learned Scribe
114 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jan 2004 : 21:52:39
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No way, I want to be the exact opposite of me in real world.
That's why I have to be a human.
But a human is always simple,even in Toril. People simply want to survive, same politics, same simple jobs to have some bread to eat and ale to get drunk. Even many heroes are forced to leave their pieceful life in their village.
That make heroes and villians simple. They follow the footprints of their marching death and find it waiting one day.
Unieqe chars are rare as I said, and they are immortal.
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RaVeN1463
Seeker
USA
96 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jan 2004 : 01:17:15
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| I'll have to vote any race but human. Drow being #1 of course. but whats the fun of playing a game with a multiple races you can assume and play as the one you are? |
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Arteris
Learned Scribe
121 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jan 2004 : 01:44:56
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Originally posted by Ezindir the dark
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Originally posted by Arteris
Drow or half Drow. I dont tend to like the Lolthite culture, I tend towards more male oriented gods/demigods of the Drow pantheon. But all in all I like the culture for what it is.
Are you perhaps a follower of Vhearaun?
Yes.. I am a moderator on Shadowlords site.. Except theres been a problem with my log in so currently Im not untill I get it fixed and I havent seen him on lately so yea.. Im stuck in a rut lol |
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Feawen
Acolyte
Australia
25 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jan 2004 : 02:36:46
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I think the elfs are the coolest or best or whatever...
Their culture and all the details writen about them are just incredible. no race in th fr setting have so much information about them as the elfs.
they are majestic, graceful and powerful, they have the power to do almost anything. they are in one with the nature,and not abjuseing as the humans. they have respect for the nature because without it we would vanish.
well thats my oppinion.
Well put. Nobody can match the grace, culture, elegance or sophistication of the elves. Powerful beyond words and yet tempered with compassion. Even the drow have their good points.
Humans on the other hand are greedy, self interested bunch. They are mediocre, nothing more. |
-=Current Character: Iyanden, Chaotic Neutral Elven Swashbuckler=- |
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Lina
Senior Scribe
Australia
469 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jan 2004 : 05:05:17
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| Well since Humans are the most abundant of races in the FR world and I already am one, I just can stand not being anything else but I like being an individal, out of the ordinary person so Half-elves are my fav race. (Any type of elf race, including Drow, mixed with human). |
“Darkness beyond twilight, crimson beyond blood that flows! Buried in the flow of time. In thy great name. I pledge myself to darkness. All the fools who stand in our way shall be destroyed…by the power you and I possess! DRAGON SLAVE!!!”
"Thieves? Ah, such an ugly word... look upon them as the most honest sort of merchant."
-Oglar the Thieflord |
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe
Norway
323 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jan 2004 : 21:08:37
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How can you people even begin to compare the silyl little elves with the humans? The humans own the elves any day!
Just look, for eksample, at the power that they aquire in their 'short' lifetimes, that can rival, and even better, that of most elven 'collegues'.
It's jsut fun to see a 200 year-old, battle-hardied, elf go down to the fighting skills of a 30 - 40 years old human. (Though that my be a rare event )
[Good example: Drizzt Vs. Entreri. Well... maby not, 'cuz Drizzt Won, but then again he had twice the time Entreri had in experience, and he was raised under entirely different conditions, demanding skills with the blade. Not that Entreri wasen't, it's just that.... never mind  ]
The humans are the most numerous, the most intelligent, the most diverse, the most potent and the dominant race. And all of that despite the fact that they are in reality short-lived, and weak creatures. The Elves are superior to the humans only becaouse of one thing. They were born so. Bah! That alone makes it.... just unfair!
You can't possible say that a race that, despite those odds, has bettered their 'superiors' are not cool.
And humans are the most well-liked of the races. By well-liked I mean on a good foot with all the other races (with a exception here and there).
And the humans have the best attitude! What's up with the drow jsut killing eveything, out of spite? Or the dwardves jsut hanging around in their mountains, and god-knows what? And those damn secretive elves, bluntly refusing to share anything with the other races!
There- 
(As for coolest race I'd pick Half-Dragons! Yeha! Humans are a good second, though.) |
Ec'Thelion, formerly known as Forgotten One, now known as Ec'Thelion the Overpowered.
Currently not all that active. I'm preoccupied with Warcraft III for the moment. Bite me :P |
Edited by - EcThelion on 26 Jan 2004 21:11:29 |
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Ezindir the dark
Senior Scribe
Norway
603 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jan 2004 : 21:43:47
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Originally posted by Forgotten One
How can you people even begin to compare the silyl little elves with the humans? The humans own the elves any day!
Just look, for eksample, at the power that they aquire in their 'short' lifetimes, that can rival, and even better, that of most elven 'collegues'.
It's jsut fun to see a 200 year-old, battle-hardied, elf go down to the fighting skills of a 30 - 40 years old human. (Though that my be a rare event )
[Good example: Drizzt Vs. Entreri. Well... maby not, 'cuz Drizzt Won, but then again he had twice the time Entreri had in experience, and he was raised under entirely different conditions, demanding skills with the blade. Not that Entreri wasen't, it's just that.... never mind ]
The humans are the most numerous, the most intelligent, the most diverse, the most potent and the dominant race. And all of that despite the fact that they are in reality short-lived, and weak creatures. The Elves are superior to the humans only becaouse of one thing. They were born so. Bah! That alone makes it.... just unfair!
You can't possible say that a race that, despite those odds, has bettered their 'superiors' are not cool.
And humans are the most well-liked of the races. By well-liked I mean on a good foot with all the other races (with a exception here and there).
And the humans have the best attitude! What's up with the drow jsut killing eveything, out of spite? Or the dwardves jsut hanging around in their mountains, and god-knows what? And those damn secretive elves, bluntly refusing to share anything with the other races!
There-
(As for coolest race I'd pick Half-Dragons! Yeha! Humans are a good second, though.)
The onley reason you can justyfie saynig that they are soo intellegent, is becouse there are more intellegent human then elves, but then again there are more stupid humans too.
And its the same way with attidute of the races, the humans tend too have soo many attidutes since they are soo many more then the elves and the other races, while the other races have very similar attidute too their "brothers","sisters", and soo on. |
Learn about the Ways of Vhaeraun .
- Check out my bio, majore update
- The Wanderers Quest
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zadiac
Acolyte
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Posted - 26 Jan 2004 : 21:48:38
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I cant believe no one here likes Tieflings.
Tieflings rule. |
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Ezindir the dark
Senior Scribe
Norway
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jan 2004 : 02:25:17
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| Eh, tieflings are a bit too chaotic, give me drow anyday, they're mortal fiends, not half-fiends, though with their personality, there's little difference. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe
Norway
323 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jan 2004 : 12:45:12
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The onley reason you can justyfie saynig that they are soo intellegent, is becouse there are more intellegent human then elves, but then again there are more stupid humans too.
And its the same way with attidute of the races, the humans tend too have soo many attidutes since they are soo many more then the elves and the other races, while the other races have very similar attidute too their "brothers","sisters", and soo on.
Meh. Humans are not often raised in a enviorment promoting intelligence. Humans are City Dwellers, farmers, slaves, beggars, smiths, and a mercenary here and there. Most Elves, on the other hand, are raised inn a secluded enviorment of a Elven city, or forest, or something simmilar. And humans, like elves, don't usually have this pressing urge for power. It's not like contry Joe sits and plots to take over the nearest kingdom, after he has taken inn the harvest, or even go on adventures.
Humans have alot less oppertunitys than elves have. But, yeah, I guess there is some sence in what you are saying, regardless.
Humans are really nothing but weak, short-lived, and fragile creatures raised in generally uninteresting enviorements. Elves are something completely different. They are very long-livedcreatures often raised in communitys, by other elves. I am suprised that the elves are as weak as they are, considering everything.
Elves suck. 
And concerning attitdes... well. Elves are generally bitches to all the other races, bitcing about how superior they are, and how cool magical items they have and no others will have, and how cool magic they have, and they grand citys, etc, etc, etc.
Had Elves only looked like dwarves somebody would have killed off the lot of 'em long ago.
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Ec'Thelion, formerly known as Forgotten One, now known as Ec'Thelion the Overpowered.
Currently not all that active. I'm preoccupied with Warcraft III for the moment. Bite me :P |
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Ezindir the dark
Senior Scribe
Norway
603 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jan 2004 : 13:30:02
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Bah, they would not.
If elves looked like dwarfs they would probably be like the dwarfs too, very similar I think anyway. Soo they would not be counted as Elves but as dwarfs.
And think about this: A human are pragnent in 9 months, while a elf will be pragnent in almost 50 years, as you might have figured out yourself, they do become much more, soo some of them are bound too become mihgty. Mheeeeee  .
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Learn about the Ways of Vhaeraun .
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- The Wanderers Quest
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Cyric
Senior Scribe
Norway
388 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jan 2004 : 15:11:35
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| That onley proves that humans are superior, And if you are going to give the drown the titel of mortal fiends let me ask you of the most evil beings is not evil humans that is most feard.... |
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Ezindir the dark
Senior Scribe
Norway
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Cherrn
Learned Scribe
Denmark
323 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jan 2004 : 15:28:47
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| They are returning. The Elven retreat has ended. |
A wise man from Calimport once told me: "If a merchant puts sand in the flask of oil he's trying to sell you, then he isn't trying to sell you sand..." |
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Ezindir the dark
Senior Scribe
Norway
603 Posts |
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jan 2004 : 18:20:35
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Originally posted by Cherrn
They are returning. The Elven retreat has ended.
Which brings me to my age-old question.......whatever became of the Tree of Life situation?! |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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Cyric
Senior Scribe
Norway
388 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jan 2004 : 18:35:40
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| And what is this tree of life you speak of. |
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Lady_Silverwing
Acolyte
26 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jan 2004 : 18:35:41
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Coolest Race: Avariel, without a doubt.
Best Race: My current infatuation is with the fey'ri. They'd make the ideal thieves because of their Alterself. ^^ Steal something as one person, shapeshift and get away scot free. As you can tell, I have very few qualms with larceny. |
-Ryissa Silverwing
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Ezindir the dark
Senior Scribe
Norway
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jan 2004 : 20:22:41
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| Eh, the drow were never part of the retreat, so there's still plenty of them on Faeraun to deal with. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Edain Shadowstar
Senior Scribe
USA
455 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jan 2004 : 20:36:05
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| Coolest Race? Wow, what a mine-field. Why anyone would ask another sentient being their opinion, I will never know. If I had to pick my favorite humanoid race I would say the Ar'Tel'Quessir, or Gold Elves (Sun Elves). Not only are they elven, but they are the smart elves. You have got to appreciate have all the good stuff of other elves and being more intelligent than most other humanoids. Of course, they may be a little aloof, but they are smarter than almost everyone else. Honorable mention goes to the Aasimar and the Tieflings, who epitomise the coolness of the planes. |
Edain Shadowstar
Archwizard of Rel Astra and Waterdeep
"Mmmpie"
- Gaius Solarian, Captain General |
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jan 2004 : 21:44:27
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Originally posted by Cyric
And what is this tree of life you speak of.
I mentioned this not too long ago over in this scroll, but im sure ive also brought the subject up somewhere else too
I wont mention it here as its off topic but maybe someone could reply in the above mentioned scroll if the answer is known.
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Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe
Norway
323 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jan 2004 : 23:48:05
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Bah, the elves could be taking over the world at any time with some coopariason.
Really now? They could fight off all of the humans, dwarves, and Helm-only knows what other creatures are out there? I highly dubt that they could fight off even the humans.
50 years, eh? That is.... 66.667^ times as long as a human! How old do elves become?
And who do you maen by Elves? There are several kinds of Elves, as you well know. And even though they are all called elves they are very different from eachoter. If all elves were to suddently settle all of their differences and join toghether to attack all of Faern at once they *might* (empathised) be able to defeat the Humans & the Dwarves (Or the humans alone, the dwarves would probably not care that much... then again Dwarves pick humans over elves any day!)
Not that such a thing would ever occur. Humans, on the other hand, are all one and the same race. They might have silghtly different skin colour, and so on and so forth, but they are the same race. (Save the Half-breeds, but they are not human, now are they?)
In a straight <Insert any kind of elven race here> Vs. Humans the humans would crush them underneath their numbers and ability to learn as quickly as they do. If you wish to include all of the elven races it would not be so far-fetched to include most of the Half-human breeds, now would it? (What about the Human-Elves? Would they go about killing themselves? )
In a fair fight between humans and elves the elves would probably win, but then again we should count every single elven unit as 66.667 human units so a army of 1000 elves would be forced to fight 66.667 humans .
There is no care out there that rival the Humans in raw power, be it through numbers, or skill. (save rats, perhaps?  )
The fact that humans have risen to a position of such power, and still beinf a very young race, I find to be very impressive.
Let's say it like this: A Human Lich would kick the ass of a Elven Lich any day! (Not that I have ever heard of any Elven Liches, though)
And had the humans not been powerful they would still have been cool, thanks to their incredible diversity. All of the other races are biased twoards something, but the haumsn provide the almost perfect middle ground. (Like a strane mix of Elves, dwarves, haflings and orcs!) |
Ec'Thelion, formerly known as Forgotten One, now known as Ec'Thelion the Overpowered.
Currently not all that active. I'm preoccupied with Warcraft III for the moment. Bite me :P |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jan 2004 : 00:34:51
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| There are no elven liches. They are called Baelnorns. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe
Norway
323 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jan 2004 : 00:43:33
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Ah yes! Me remember now. Me memory be strange, yes? Me fogott.
Errr... me not know much about Those... thingies. What be difference between Elf-Lich-thingie, and Human-lich? |
Ec'Thelion, formerly known as Forgotten One, now known as Ec'Thelion the Overpowered.
Currently not all that active. I'm preoccupied with Warcraft III for the moment. Bite me :P |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jan 2004 : 00:53:00
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| Baelnorn stay alive after death because they have a duty to complete, while human liches are undead just for the power. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe
Norway
323 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jan 2004 : 00:55:10
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| Huh? There are no Elves that desire power? That's strange, I'd say. Oh well; Go humans, nonetheless! |
Ec'Thelion, formerly known as Forgotten One, now known as Ec'Thelion the Overpowered.
Currently not all that active. I'm preoccupied with Warcraft III for the moment. Bite me :P |
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Coolest and best race!!
