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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 28 Jan 2004 : 01:03:17
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| Thats not true. Elves desire power, but they don't become a baelnorn unless they have a duty to fulfill, and can't live long enough to do it. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe
Norway
323 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jan 2004 : 01:08:54
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So they just give up their conquest, when they can do otherwise? That just seemes wrong too me. Then again I am nothing more than a mere human, and an oppertunist. If I see an oppertunity for power you can be damn shure that I'll grab it! The easyer it comes the happyer the user, that's my opinion, anyways.
What elves have the power to do this, then? Everybody? Like the average elf sees it as his duty to watch over his childeren so he becomes one when he dies, or what? That seems a little far-fetched.  |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jan 2004 : 01:20:38
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It doesn't happen like that!
Its like a guardian of Myth Drannor or something..... Not the guardian of an old housewife! |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe
Norway
323 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jan 2004 : 01:36:51
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It was a poorly directed joke, sorry 
But, seriously, why are there no elven "Liches"? (ie. elves that go through the process 'cuz they feel that they don't want to die right now) |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jan 2004 : 01:46:40
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| It's just not done..... Elves understand that their time must pass, and they must go to Arvandor. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jan 2004 : 06:23:13
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::A shadow of the Bookwyrm's natural shape can be seen, as he stands glowering at the mass of elves in the room. He drums his fingers impatiently on his arm as he glares about.::
Too many elves! Start talking about dwarves or halflings or something, before I start finding out if my sire was right about elves tasting good . . . . |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 28 Jan 2004 : 07:39:52
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I agree.
Perhaps we could shift the current discussion into talking about some of the lesser-talked about races of the Realms. Gnomes, and Halflings for instance...
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe
Norway
323 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jan 2004 : 16:01:47
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Neh. Nobody likes gnomes, or haflings. Humans all the way!
All the elves can go drown, for all I care. |
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Cyric
Senior Scribe
Norway
388 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jan 2004 : 16:24:35
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I agree all the way, humans are the way to go. And elfs could go and drown them self for all i care to .
Haflings one dont hear about them often do one, or gnomes are there by way any thing to talk about them. |
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe
Norway
323 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jan 2004 : 16:37:48
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: : Falls down on his knees, and rsises his hands in praise : :
Oh Great, and maddened, Lord Cyric! You have answered my call! Praise be to you! I'm gonna go burn down a few Elven Temples, now. Or maby one dediceted to Bane. |
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Cyric
Senior Scribe
Norway
388 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jan 2004 : 17:03:23
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| i se that you have sen the true path at last the word of Cyric is spread one down and now Alaundo is next whaahahha. You do that, rather Bane then the elfs. |
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Edain Shadowstar
Senior Scribe
USA
455 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jan 2004 : 20:11:16
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As if the world needs more Cyricists. At one point I recall him having something like the second biggest church in the Realm; of course now he is finally come full-circle, that is Bane went from alive to dead and back to alive. Sometimes I feel a bit of pity for the Prince of Lies, and then I remember he does not deserve it.
I feel compelled by my love of elves to respond to the Forgotten One's post, oh so waaaay up the thread.
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And who do you maen by Elves? There are several kinds of Elves, as you well know. And even though they are all called elves they are very different from each other.
To be accurate the Golds, Silvers, Coppers, and Greens all work together pretty harmoniously most of the time. Certainly they occupy different places and their passions a somewhat different, but that's like saying there is a racial schism with humans because one group is farmers and the other is blacksmiths. Sure, the Greens like trees more than the Golds, but the smae hold true for humans, some like the trees more than others. It doesn't mean their race is completely divided and they do not work together. That's just silly. Granted Drow Elves are the exception, there is a schism between Elves and Drow, but otherwise Elves tend to be pretty unified these days. When you break it down elves really, regardless of sub-race (again except for Drow), are very similar, they all have the inborn grace, passion for nature, sharp senses, ect.. Also is response to the question "How long to elves live?", in the Realms al elves except the Golds live to about eight hundred years old, maybe a little more, maybe a little less. The Golds are th only exception they live to be about nine hundred to a thousand years old.
Now, onto other things. Anyone really like Gold Dwarves? Though I would not put them in the top three of my favorite races, they are really cool. I kinda like how they are an example of a stable and large Dwarven kingdom (The Great Rift) and how they are kind of a goodly Underdark race, as technically the reside in the Upperdark in parts. They just have a odd racial feel to them, sort of alien, yet still decidedly Dwarvish. Kind of like they proclivity for sorcery, unlike many other Dwarves.
Also, one other things, anyone else getting a bit sick of Drow Elves? Just a thought... |
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Ezindir the dark
Senior Scribe
Norway
603 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jan 2004 : 20:57:11
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Originally posted by Forgotten One
Neh. Nobody likes gnomes, or haflings. Humans all the way!
All the elves can go drown, for all I care.
Is that a word play? Like all elves can go Drown. Probably not since Drow are also elves.
And I would rather talk about gnomes then humans, not becouse they are cooler, even tought they are, but becouse we know most things about humans.
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Originally posted by Edain Shadowstar
Also, one other things, anyone else getting a bit sick of Drow Elves? Just a thought...
Can see what you are getting at.. The normall drow society in the Underdark is getting pretty boring, but drow is a pretty cool class if you use it right.  |
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe
Norway
323 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jan 2004 : 22:39:37
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I'm not gonne get into a "who-knows-the-most-about-elves" argument with anybody here, as I know very little about them. Or Dwarves for that matter. Working together, or not, I'm pertty shure that the humans, if they united, would decimate the elves, just to be decimated by orcs, etc, in return. And that's something neither of uss want, now is it? 
And the drow aren't that cool. They have that annoying Xp-penalty, and several equally annoying penalties when fighting in daylight. No.... give me a good Human any day. Humans are the middle ground. Humans are "good" at everything.
And I'm shure that I have something more on my mind, but the words aren't forming, so I'll leave it with that. |
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Roewyn
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 29 Jan 2004 : 00:23:00
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Humans can't work together for any cause, there will always be a large number of the non-conformists among humans.First they would fight to eliminate or passivate each other then they will divide again.
Nevertheless elves are cute, I wouldn't want beautiful elven maidens to be wasted for any cause. They spice things up as well as the little folk.
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jan 2004 : 00:33:43
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| Responding to Ezindir and Edain, the drow are a great race, if only they are either brought away from Lolth or the whole "I'm an exile because I'm good" sort of thing. But the race as a whole has some great potential. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe
Norway
323 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jan 2004 : 00:42:42
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The race as a whole can't leave the Underdark. And if they did they wouldn't be Drow anymore, but just ordinary elves with odd-looking skin.
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Humans can't work together for any cause, there will always be a large number of the non-conformists among humans.First they would fight to eliminate or passivate each other then they will divide again.
If someone with a big enough stick appears he can make the humans work together. And if they are under a threat they will work together as well, like the whole Elven race attacking the Human race 
And if humans can't work together how did they become the most powerful race? |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jan 2004 : 00:52:37
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| The drow don't have to leave the Underdark, but they just should just give up the worship of Lolth and Eilistraee. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Cyric
Senior Scribe
Norway
388 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jan 2004 : 15:03:59
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no i think he had the biggest church but he way ower Bane any way and i think he is on 2 now onley Chanuntea has more followers.
And i must admit that the drow is not that bad they are at least the best of the elfs. |
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Ezindir the dark
Senior Scribe
Norway
603 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jan 2004 : 15:15:03
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Originally posted by Forgotten One
I'm not gonne get into a "who-knows-the-most-about-elves" argument with anybody here, as I know very little about them. Or Dwarves for that matter. Working together, or not, I'm pertty shure that the humans, if they united, would decimate the elves, just to be decimated by orcs, etc, in return. And that's something neither of uss want, now is it?
And the drow aren't that cool. They have that annoying Xp-penalty, and several equally annoying penalties when fighting in daylight. No.... give me a good Human any day. Humans are the middle ground. Humans are "good" at everything.
And I'm shure that I have something more on my mind, but the words aren't forming, so I'll leave it with that.
I do acctually think that the elves could have made it, They had ruled the sea with the sea elves, the sky with the Avariels, the ground with the drow, and forest with the Wild elves.
If they had tried too avoid enough open combat they could have made it I think. ohhh, well.. Visons....... |
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe
Norway
323 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jan 2004 : 16:56:09
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Even if they did make it they wouldn't have much to look forwards too. When the humans realize that they are about to be defeated they'd do some desperate spell, and open a gate to Hell, or something, resulting in daemons ending up ruling the world.
What are the Drow gonna do if they stay in the underdark... Wage open war on all the devilish creatures that live down there? Currently their working in cooperation with many of them, but if they were to turn on their allies I think they'd have a tough time holding back the Illithids, and their newly aquired enemies. The drow would need help. HAHAHA! So much for your powerful race
Or maby you meant keep being Evil, but stop worshipping Lolth and Eilistraee? I can't see how that could help much, though. Then again I don't know all that much about Drow, and by far as much as Shadowlord here.
The drow are good at one thing, though. Being Evil. If you think about it there are not erally all that many creatures out there that are 'evil', but rather 'neutral'. The fact that the drow manage to keep such a high percentage of their population Evil is quite a feat, I'd say. |
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Edain Shadowstar
Senior Scribe
USA
455 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jan 2004 : 17:36:58
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| Just as a little note: No one ever had a bigger church than Chanuntea. It just cannot happen. You have to realize 95% of Faerun's population are farmers, and roughly 97% of them worship Chanautea in some form or fashion. That's why she is the most powerful god in the Realms (except for Lord Ao). I guess the farmers win after all. |
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Lady_Silverwing
Acolyte
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Posted - 29 Jan 2004 : 17:44:44
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| The farmers and their pitchforks win... *ROTFLMFAO* |
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Ezindir the dark
Senior Scribe
Norway
603 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jan 2004 : 17:47:00
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Originally posted by Forgotten One
Even if they did make it they wouldn't have much to look forwards too. When the humans realize that they are about to be defeated they'd do some desperate spell, and open a gate to Hell, or something, resulting in daemons ending up ruling the world.
Or perhaps a new Forgotten realms game, and that had been cool.
But anyway, I think it is worth a try. Wont too join. |
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe
Norway
323 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jan 2004 : 18:07:14
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I guess the farmers win after all.
Bah. Line 'em up for me and I'll blow em all asunder! So much for farmer-power! Magic is the way to go. As a matter of fact I think I might just have found my diety. |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jan 2004 : 20:21:31
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Originally posted by Forgotten One
Even if they did make it they wouldn't have much to look forwards too. When the humans realize that they are about to be defeated they'd do some desperate spell, and open a gate to Hell, or something, resulting in daemons ending up ruling the world.
What are the Drow gonna do if they stay in the underdark... Wage open war on all the devilish creatures that live down there? Currently their working in cooperation with many of them, but if they were to turn on their allies I think they'd have a tough time holding back the Illithids, and their newly aquired enemies. The drow would need help. HAHAHA! So much for your powerful race
Or maby you meant keep being Evil, but stop worshipping Lolth and Eilistraee? I can't see how that could help much, though. Then again I don't know all that much about Drow, and by far as much as Shadowlord here.
The drow are good at one thing, though. Being Evil. If you think about it there are not erally all that many creatures out there that are 'evil', but rather 'neutral'. The fact that the drow manage to keep such a high percentage of their population Evil is quite a feat, I'd say.
I mean stay evil, be drow, and worship Vhaeraun. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Edain Shadowstar
Senior Scribe
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455 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jan 2004 : 21:00:34
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Originally posted by Shadowlord:
I mean stay evil, be drow, and worship Vhaeraun.
No, worship Corellon Larethian. You know you want to. Now, pass into the light children!
And here I am, still shackled to this idiot. |
Edain Shadowstar
Archwizard of Rel Astra and Waterdeep
"Mmm…pie…"
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jan 2004 : 21:05:35
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Originally posted by Edain Shadowstar
quote:
Originally posted by Shadowlord:
I mean stay evil, be drow, and worship Vhaeraun.
No, worship Corellon Larethian. You know you want to. Now, pass into the light children!
And here I am, still shackled to this idiot.
I could not agree more, green personality. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jan 2004 : 21:22:55
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Ahem, isn't this a 'race' topic, not another convert-to-my-god one?  |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jan 2004 : 21:26:35
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| Whats the point Bookwyrm? When Cyric added his voice, it instantly became a "deity-conversion" topic. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Coolest and best race!!
