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Sourcemaster2
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Posted - 28 Jan 2004 :  03:52:23  Show Profile  Visit Sourcemaster2's Homepage Send Sourcemaster2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Most sources I've seen list drow powers as darkness, faerie fire, and dancing lights, each 1/day. But Liriel, and at one point Drizzt, could also levitate. They also seem able to sense magic at will. I've heard that levitate and several other powers are only had by drow nobles; any explanation why? Also, why does Drizzt have any drow powers at all; he's been on the surface for years.

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Nate Palm
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Posted - 28 Jan 2004 :  05:27:32  Show Profile  Visit Nate Palm's Homepage Send Nate Palm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
All Drow can do the darkness and faerie fire thing. Drow nobles on the other hand are the only ones who can levitate. This is because they have enchanted House insignia pins. I have no idea why Drizzt didn't lose his darkess and faerie fire ability along with levitation. Although after the events of Windwalker I guess it doesn't make a difference. Hey! Shouldn't Drizzt be able to levitate now because of the whole Windwalker thing?

Brock
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Adrian Moonbow
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Posted - 28 Jan 2004 :  08:00:44  Show Profile  Visit Adrian Moonbow's Homepage Send Adrian Moonbow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You're right Nate: The levitation is just an effect made by the house pin that nobles have. Darkness and Faerie fire are race inherent powers!

But what about the piwafwi? What kind of magic is that? Simple protection?

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Icewolf
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Posted - 28 Jan 2004 :  08:04:32  Show Profile  Visit Icewolf's Homepage Send Icewolf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The piwafi did help a litle with protection, but it also subtly showed which house one was from. Each house had its own pattern of lines and such for their Piwafis.
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Maecenus of Westgate
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Posted - 28 Jan 2004 :  12:57:37  Show Profile  Visit Maecenus of Westgate's Homepage Send Maecenus of Westgate a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Adrian Moonbow


But what about the piwafwi? What kind of magic is that? Simple protection?



There are two types of Piwafwis, a Lesser Piwafwi is basically a cloak of elvenkind and a Greater Piwafwi which is a cloak of elvenkind plus it also the ability to resist fire damage (5 points per round) as the spell endure elements (fire). This is according to the City of the Spider Queen book and Races of Faerun.
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Zacas
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Posted - 29 Jan 2004 :  00:37:20  Show Profile  Visit Zacas's Homepage Send Zacas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
well i believe there was something about those that come to the surface world at first lost their noble abilities since drow stuff can't usually exist on the surface without disintegrating.

As for sensing magic... i think that's a natural thing for most elves, being more in tuned with the world/weave than most others

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 29 Jan 2004 :  00:48:25  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ahh, but the drow ability to sense magic is only from noble drow.... I have no idea why. As for the drow diminishing power surface thing, much of the unique Underdark powers are granted because of Faerzress, which can only be found in the Underdark. The darkness and faerie fire will diminish over time. Drizzt hasn't spent enough time on the surface for all his abilities to deteriorate.

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Nate Palm
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Posted - 29 Jan 2004 :  06:51:35  Show Profile  Visit Nate Palm's Homepage Send Nate Palm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shadowlord

As for the drow diminishing power surface thing, much of the unique Underdark powers are granted because of Faerzress, which can only be found in the Underdark. The darkness and faerie fire will diminish over time. Drizzt hasn't spent enough time on the surface for all his abilities to deteriorate.



When I asked on the now defunct WotC FR Novels Board why the Drow's weapons in Condemnation didn't melt in the sun, I was told that the whole sunlight destroying Drow equipment thing has been completely removed from D&D. Furthermore, and this one shocked me, I was told that the outcome of Windwalker didn't effect just Liriel, but ALL Drow. So it looks like Drizzt need not worry about lossing any of his tricks.

Brock
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Ash
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Posted - 30 Jan 2004 :  07:31:01  Show Profile  Visit Ash's Homepage Send Ash a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nate Palm

All Drow can do the darkness and faerie fire thing. Drow nobles on the other hand are the only ones who can levitate. This is because they have enchanted House insignia pins. I have no idea why Drizzt didn't lose his darkess and faerie fire ability along with levitation. Although after the events of Windwalker I guess it doesn't make a difference. Hey! Shouldn't Drizzt be able to levitate now because of the whole Windwalker thing?

Brock



Things have changed so much since I began roleplaying. Time for some pedantry: Back in the day, all drow had access to such innate spells as dancing lights, darkness, faerie fire, and maybe one other. The advanced spells derived neither from noble rank nor the house insignia, but rather from attaining a certain level (4th level, I think). Additionally, all drow females at a certain level acquired the ability to cast additional spells (I don't have any books with me, but I believe detect lie and suggestion were among them). Salvatore's Homeland series altered this, making advanced spells based on noble status and,for repeated castings, possession of a house insignia. I do like the house insignia granting additional spells, but I don't like the idea of commoner drow losing additional spells based on level, even if this innovation fits the caste society of the drow. Nowadays, the third edition's feat systems preserves a little of both traditions: drow can gain the ability to cast these spells by taking additional feats that require both accomplishment and status.
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Lina
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Posted - 31 Jan 2004 :  08:27:33  Show Profile  Visit Lina's Homepage Send Lina a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Drizzt's time on the surface measured in human years is what I think your getting mixed up with. A human lifespan compared to an elf is a relatively huge difference. So although Drizzt's has been on the surface for so many x years is nothing compared to the time he spent living in the underworld. I haven't finished reading the Starlight and Shadow series so the Windwalker could be another factor.

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Zelg of Cyric
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Posted - 11 Mar 2004 :  03:07:23  Show Profile  Visit Zelg of Cyric's Homepage Send Zelg of Cyric a Private Message  Reply with Quote
From everything I gathered, drow don't actually lose their inate powers on the surface, but drow artifacts and enchaments such as the piwafi and house insignia lose there abilities, and the drow weapons lose their effectiveness and become frail.

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