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skychrome
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 Posted - 02 Nov 2009 : 15:54:06
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[I hope 'Sentinelspire' is as good, because, on the strength of this, it's slowly rising to the top of my massive to-read pile!^
I feel that Sentinelspire is better than Frostfell. In fact I would consider it absolutely awesome if it wasn´t (I know I repeat myself) for the weak main characters (same thing that I felt about Frostfell). In terms of description and atmosphere however Sehestedt is a top benchmark, no doubt about it. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 02 Nov 2009 : 17:29:17
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I just finished Song of the Saurials, and now Masquerades is up next. Few Realms authors can match the caliber of Kate Novak and Jeff Grubb.  |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
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Posted - 02 Nov 2009 : 18:39:24
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I just finished Song of the Saurials, and now Masquerades is up next. Few Realms authors can match the caliber of Kate Novak and Jeff Grubb.
I'm getting close to finally reading their line of realms novels....perhaps as soon as I am done reading Ghost King I will move on to Azure Bonds. |
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skychrome
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Posted - 02 Nov 2009 : 19:17:11
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I just finished Song of the Saurials, and now Masquerades is up next. Few Realms authors can match the caliber of Kate Novak and Jeff Grubb.
Wolly, which book of the trilogy did you like best? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 02 Nov 2009 : 22:26:29
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Originally posted by skychrome
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I just finished Song of the Saurials, and now Masquerades is up next. Few Realms authors can match the caliber of Kate Novak and Jeff Grubb.
Wolly, which book of the trilogy did you like best?
All of the books are great, so it's really hard to single any one of them out. That said, I think I like Giogi and Cat better than any of the other characters, so The Wyvern's Spur would prolly be my fave from the entire lot.
Azure Bonds is one that I think would make an excellent intro for anyone wanting to read Realms novels, and it stands quite well on its own.
There's a reason I rank this series up there next to anything Elaine has written. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 03 Nov 2009 : 00:06:36
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I'm away from the Realms at the moment. Instead, I'm finally tackling George R. R. Martin'a A Song of Ice and Fire -- starting the "A Games of Thrones." I'm curious to see what all the "fuss" is about.
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J D Dunsany
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 Nov 2009 : 06:56:08
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by skychrome
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I just finished Song of the Saurials, and now Masquerades is up next. Few Realms authors can match the caliber of Kate Novak and Jeff Grubb.
Wolly, which book of the trilogy did you like best?
All of the books are great, so it's really hard to single any one of them out. That said, I think I like Giogi and Cat better than any of the other characters, so The Wyvern's Spur would prolly be my fave from the entire lot.
Azure Bonds is one that I think would make an excellent intro for anyone wanting to read Realms novels, and it stands quite well on its own.
There's a reason I rank this series up there next to anything Elaine has written.
I know what you mean about Cat and Giogi - they are fab - but for my money, I'd have to say that Azure Bonds is the pick of the trilogy. It has a truly inventive and very clever plot and Alias is a fantastic protagonist - I'd have fallen in love with her even without the cover art. Superb stuff!
Btw, I've just finished 'Frostfell' - what an incredibly uplifting and, dammit, satisfying ending. Highly recommended.
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swifty
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Nov 2009 : 10:39:34
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Originally posted by The Sage
I'm away from the Realms at the moment. Instead, I'm finally tackling George R. R. Martin'a A Song of Ice and Fire -- starting the "A Games of Thrones." I'm curious to see what all the "fuss" is about.
youll have to report back sage.isnt he the writer who kills off loads of characters.it gets a bit annoying in realms novels when ALL the good guys emerge unscathed. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 04 Nov 2009 : 14:41:19
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Originally posted by swifty
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Originally posted by The Sage
I'm away from the Realms at the moment. Instead, I'm finally tackling George R. R. Martin'a A Song of Ice and Fire -- starting the "A Games of Thrones." I'm curious to see what all the "fuss" is about.
youll have to report back sage.isnt he the writer who kills off loads of characters.
I've not encountered too much of that so far, but then I'm only half-way through the first book.  |
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Christopher_Rowe
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Posted - 04 Nov 2009 : 15:13:30
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George has plenty of characters to spare!
Off to get Mark Sehestedt's new one this afternoon. I really liked his Sentinelspire, and the module the LFR folks developed to accompany The Fall of Highwatch was interesting (even though my wife's vicious halfling rogue ignored my dwarf warden's plea to spare the dragon's life). Lotsa Nar, demony goodness.
I'm interested in what folks think about the cover design.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 04 Nov 2009 : 16:20:21
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Originally posted by Christopher_Rowe
Off to get Mark Sehestedt's new one this afternoon. I really liked his Sentinelspire, and the module the LFR folks developed to accompany The Fall of Highwatch was interesting (even though my wife's vicious halfling rogue ignored my dwarf warden's plea to spare the dragon's life). Lotsa Nar, demony goodness.
I've been looking forward to this one myself, mostly because I've long been curious about the Vil Adanrath [one of the particular highlights of Frostfell, I must say].
Hopefully my pre-order is now on its way. |
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swifty
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Nov 2009 : 14:22:46
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| just finished ghostwalker.great work eric.i usually take about 2-3 weeks to read a realms novel but i had this done in 10 days.son of thunder next. |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 06 Nov 2009 : 22:54:53
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Originally posted by The Sage
I'm away from the Realms at the moment. Instead, I'm finally tackling George R. R. Martin'a A Song of Ice and Fire -- starting the "A Games of Thrones." I'm curious to see what all the "fuss" is about.
Well the "fuss" is well deserved, but I must say that waiting so long for the latest installment finally frustrated me enough to cancel my pre-order. I know of at least three push backs and last time I looked their is no longer a release date. And I was even more excited when it was revealed HBO was considering making it a series.
Just finished The Ghost King :(. So much potential in the beginning, then it was all chucked out the door and an ill fitting ending was apparently shoehorned in to fit the page count. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 06 Nov 2009 : 23:19:17
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Well the "fuss" is well deserved...
I'm beginning to realise that. Truly, Martin's attention to detail is superb. And his ability to maintain so many alternate perspectives of the several main characters, while convulsively following their relationships, is well worth the time I've spent with the first book.
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And I was even more excited when it was revealed HBO was considering making it a series.
I hadn't heard anything about this. Unfortunately, given what I said above, I'm not entirely sure the actual depth of A Game of Thrones could be suitably captured for the small screen. There's just so much going on.
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Darth KTrava
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 06 Nov 2009 : 23:52:19
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Christopher_Rowe
Off to get Mark Sehestedt's new one this afternoon. I really liked his Sentinelspire, and the module the LFR folks developed to accompany The Fall of Highwatch was interesting (even though my wife's vicious halfling rogue ignored my dwarf warden's plea to spare the dragon's life). Lotsa Nar, demony goodness.
I've been looking forward to this one myself, mostly because I've long been curious about the Vil Adanrath [one of the particular highlights of Frostfell, I must say].
Hopefully my pre-order is now on its way.
Who did the cover art for that book? That's the best art I've seen in quite a while that wasn't on a Drizzt novel.... |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
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Posted - 07 Nov 2009 : 00:32:03
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
Well the "fuss" is well deserved...
I'm beginning to realise that. Truly, Martin's attention to detail is superb. And his ability to maintain so many alternate perspectives of the several main characters, while convulsively following their relationships, is well worth the time I've spent with the first book.
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And I was even more excited when it was revealed HBO was considering making it a series.
I hadn't heard anything about this. Unfortunately, given what I said above, I'm not entirely sure the actual depth of A Game of Thrones could be suitably captured for the small screen. There's just so much going on.
Yes , his characters and the depth with which he can write is equisite. But just to be warned, do not get to fond of any characters, places or things!
And the HBO stuff he discussed was proposed as a season of like 14 or so episodes per year, one full season for each of his proposed 7 novels. So in that form it could work well, much like showtime does with The Tudors multiple plots andintrigues.
But it looks like we have gotten off track, so if you want to discuss it further pm me |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 07 Nov 2009 : 01:15:38
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Originally posted by Darth KTrava
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Christopher_Rowe
Off to get Mark Sehestedt's new one this afternoon. I really liked his Sentinelspire, and the module the LFR folks developed to accompany The Fall of Highwatch was interesting (even though my wife's vicious halfling rogue ignored my dwarf warden's plea to spare the dragon's life). Lotsa Nar, demony goodness.
I've been looking forward to this one myself, mostly because I've long been curious about the Vil Adanrath [one of the particular highlights of Frostfell, I must say].
Hopefully my pre-order is now on its way.
Who did the cover art for that book? That's the best art I've seen in quite a while that wasn't on a Drizzt novel....
I'm not entirely sure. O-Love's Realms library lists the cover artist as "?," so I presume it's largely unknown. |
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Sandro
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Posted - 08 Nov 2009 : 08:17:04
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| Got the Last Mythal trilogy and the Finder's Stone trilogy for my birthday today, and I'm definitely very excited to read both, though the latter especially, after all the great things I've heard about it here. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 08 Nov 2009 : 14:20:21
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Got the Last Mythal trilogy and the Finder's Stone trilogy for my birthday today, and I'm definitely very excited to read both, though the latter especially, after all the great things I've heard about it here.
In my opinion, the Finder's Stone trilogy sets a high standard that few Realms novels since have reached.
That said, I did enjoy the Last Mythal trilogy, as well. When the books came out, I thought they were the best Realms novels we'd seen in a while. |
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J D Dunsany
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 09 Nov 2009 : 09:05:04
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Sandro
Got the Last Mythal trilogy and the Finder's Stone trilogy for my birthday today, and I'm definitely very excited to read both, though the latter especially, after all the great things I've heard about it here.
In my opinion, the Finder's Stone trilogy sets a high standard that few Realms novels since have reached.
That said, I did enjoy the Last Mythal trilogy, as well. When the books came out, I thought they were the best Realms novels we'd seen in a while.
Yep. I'd agree with both those sentiments. I really enjoyed 'The Last Mythal' trilogy - there were a number of stupendously good set pieces, for a start. Highly recommended stuff.
Right, I'm now reading 'Annihilation' by Philip Athans, the fifth book in the War of the Spider Queen series. What's taken me by surprise is the quite dramatic shifts in characterisation after the previous four novels. Jeggred and Valas, in particular, both seemed to have magically acquired personalities between books four and five and everyone else seems to have come more sharply into focus. Does this mean that Athans is a better writer than Smedman, Reid et al or does it just mean he likes getting into his characters' heads more? Don't know, really, but I like it. Very enjoyable so far.
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 10 Nov 2009 : 16:46:02
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| Just finished reading The Ghost King |
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skychrome
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 11 Nov 2009 : 13:22:05
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I just finished "Azure Bonds".
Outstanding book to take a tour through the old realms and very well done!! This is really realms novels that bring the world alive and make you want to throw some dice!
The only reason it took me quite long to finish it, is that I seem to be facing a motivation problem regarding the realms: before the 4e realms I felt I had and wanted to keep up with novel releases, realm events and start to delve deeper into the great infinity of Realmslore. Now as all this has become legacy and additionally -to make it worse- my favorite author Paul Kemp bailed out, it is kinda hard to keep this spirit alive. So I guess I'll take a novel and lore break and see when I start picking up at least the pre-4e novels again (unless Erik SdB writes a trilogy at last ). Still so much great stuff on my shelf that I haven't read yet. |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
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Posted - 11 Nov 2009 : 15:54:04
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| I'm a few chapters into Azure Bonds....by Moradin's Beard!! this is storytelling at its finest!!! |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 11 Nov 2009 : 16:07:42
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Originally posted by skychrome
I just finished "Azure Bonds".
Outstanding book to take a tour through the old realms and very well done!! This is really realms novels that bring the world alive and make you want to throw some dice!
This is why I so readily recommend it to people, even though it's long out of print. As I was rereading it myself just a few weeks ago (I'm now up to Tymora's Luck), one of the things I noticed was the way they worked in the explanation of certain Realms terms and such. By using Akabar as the "foreigner", ignorant of the ways of life in the North, he would need things explained -- which explains things to the reader, without an infodump or an aside breaking up the narrative.
Having read Frankenstein recently, as well, there are certain parallels between Alias's experiences and those of the monster -- particularly in the questioning of self and of their place in the world.
Are you going to continue reading the books by Novak and Grubb? There's 5 more to go, and I love all of them. |
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Alisttair
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Posted - 11 Nov 2009 : 16:37:00
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| If it can be done without spoilers, just how much does the DragonLance novel - "Fistadantilus Reborn" sp? tie in? Thanks! |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 11 Nov 2009 : 17:03:56
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If it can be done without spoilers, just how much does the DragonLance novel - "Fistadantilus Reborn" sp? tie in? Thanks!
It's totally unconnected to Finder's Bane. The only real connection it has to Tymora's Luck is that it intro's one of the characters -- the kender, Emilo Haversack. I'm not a fan of the novel, and I don't consider it required reading. In fact, I currently don't even own the novel -- I've not bothered to replace it yet, because whenever I reread that trilogy, I usually skip it.
Fistandantilus Reborn is entirely a Dragonlance novel, and the events of it are quite questionable within the DL timeline -- it's basically, as I recall, an alternate Dragonlance history. |
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Alisttair
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Posted - 11 Nov 2009 : 17:16:41
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Alisttair
If it can be done without spoilers, just how much does the DragonLance novel - "Fistadantilus Reborn" sp? tie in? Thanks!
It's totally unconnected to Finder's Bane. The only real connection it has to Tymora's Luck is that it intro's one of the characters -- the kender, Emilo Haversack. I'm not a fan of the novel, and I don't consider it required reading. In fact, I currently don't even own the novel -- I've not bothered to replace it yet, because whenever I reread that trilogy, I usually skip it.
Fistandantilus Reborn is entirely a Dragonlance novel, and the events of it are quite questionable within the DL timeline -- it's basically, as I recall, an alternate Dragonlance history.
Hmmm...well I guess I'll read it anyways since I bought it lo those many years ago. |
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Alisttair
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Posted - 11 Nov 2009 : 17:22:45
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| Plus I haven't followed the Dragonlance history close enough for it to affect my understanding of Krynn |
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skychrome
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Posted - 11 Nov 2009 : 18:35:17
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Are you going to continue reading the books by Novak and Grubb? There's 5 more to go, and I love all of them.
Yes, I am definitely going to read the other books, because these appear to be truly outstanding and timeless. I am so glad I have got them, though they are out of print.
However Azure Bond makes a reasonable cut to pick up Wyverns Spur later, which appears to have gotten even better reviews than Azure Bonds.
And thanks by the way for your answer regarding the Dragonlance novel. I had the same doubt as Alistair. That series should be really interesting too, I would love to see the Planescape components of the settings.
Planar travel is such a great option in the realms. I like stuff in the style of "For Duty And Deity" where heroes shift between the planes. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 11 Nov 2009 : 18:56:19
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Originally posted by skychrome
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Are you going to continue reading the books by Novak and Grubb? There's 5 more to go, and I love all of them.
Yes, I am definitely going to read the other books, because these appear to be truly outstanding and timeless. I am so glad I have got them, though they are out of print.
However Azure Bond makes a reasonable cut to pick up Wyverns Spur later, which appears to have gotten even better reviews than Azure Bonds.
And thanks by the way for your answer regarding the Dragonlance novel. I had the same doubt as Alistair. That series should be really interesting too, I would love to see the Planescape components of the settings.
Planar travel is such a great option in the realms. I like stuff in the style of "For Duty And Deity" where heroes shift between the planes.
I don't recall any planar travel at all in Fistandantilus Reborn. Finder's Bane starts in the Realms, moves to the Outlands and then Sigil, spends some time there, and then goes to the Astral Plane. Tymora's Luck, despite having the FR logo, is almost entirely set in the planes -- I believe it was originally intended to be a Planescape novel. There are cut-scenes showing what's going on in the Realms; Volo appears in one, Mirt in another, and most of the rest focus on the next generation of Wyvernspurs. |
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