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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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 Posted - 16 Apr 2004 : 23:27:23
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
Mr. Reid, I've never heard of a place in the Realms called, Car the Golden. Are you sure that's correct?. I thought it was supposed to be Var the Golden . . .  .
*Chuckle*
Nah its meant to be Car the the Goldern
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Thomas M. Reid
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
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Posted - 17 Apr 2004 : 04:02:23
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D'Oh! Yes, it's Var the Golden. I usually try to proofread my posts, but that one slipped through. I've edited.
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
Australia
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Posted - 17 Apr 2004 : 10:37:28
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
Mr. Reid, I've never heard of a place in the Realms called, Car the Golden. Are you sure that's correct?. I thought it was supposed to be Var the Golden . . . .
I'm sure that was a typo on his part. The C and the V are right next to each other on the keyboard, after all....
I'm still learning my way around Faerun remember. For all I knew, there was a place called Car the Golden, although in retrospect it does seem unlikely that such a silly name would be used for a place in a land as grand as the Realms . . .  .
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
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Posted - 17 Apr 2004 : 19:10:06
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Originally posted by Dargoth
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
Mr. Reid, I've never heard of a place in the Realms called, Car the Golden. Are you sure that's correct?. I thought it was supposed to be Var the Golden . . . .
*Chuckle*
Nah its meant to be Car the the Goldern
The Shining South contains a fulls write up on Thomas bright yellow Honda Civic
Nope, it's one of those hidden bits of Realmslore (Remember--It's not a bug/mistake, it's a feature!).
Coll the Goldurned was the Moonshine King of Var the Golden, until the revenuers of the Rundeen caught up with him. 
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
Australia
921 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 04:58:41
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Heh . . . 
Do you know of any other occurences of such bugs Mr Schend?.
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CurseLord
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2004 : 07:21:34
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Originally posted by CurseLord
I just thought for those intrested, Wizards has the Shining South(with some other products)on their product page now. Along with some cover art. http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/fracc/179290000
Interesting cover. I wonder who is responsible for it.
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2004 : 07:38:15
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Thomas M. Reid
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
334 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2004 : 14:23:38
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Originally posted by The Sage
Mr. Reid, will there be any special areas within the Great Sea, detailed in your new tome?.
Not really. I did include a few interesting notes on some of the shallow coastal waters and inlets (such as the Bay of Dancing Dolphins), but the Great Sea itself was a little beyond the scope.
While I'm posting, let me also just take the opportunity to remind everyone that anything I report about the product must be accepted with the caveat that things could change in development and/or editing at WotC. I really only wrote the first draft; the folks in RPG R&D will add their own touches to make it a final product. So don't assume that anything I say is set in stone.
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
Australia
921 Posts |
Posted - 29 Apr 2004 : 13:43:42
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I can't remember (and can't check the Sage's books), but are there any aquatic elf communities along the southern coast - within the scope of area that this sourcebook covers?.
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
2066 Posts |
Posted - 29 Apr 2004 : 14:56:24
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There are sea elf communities off the coast of the Shining South (see a Dragon article a while back by Ed ... I think it was one of the Volo columns circa Dragon #205 ...), but I don't think Thomas delves into the Great Sea in any detail.
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 29 Apr 2004 : 15:20:37
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The first "New Adventures of Volo" article, in Dragon #267, titled just "Onward!", tells us of Mlossae, around the Shipgrave Isles south of Halruaa. Hope you don't mind me footnoting you, Eric.
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
2066 Posts |
Posted - 29 Apr 2004 : 15:24:42
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Nope, I much appreciate the footnoting. :-)
I usually only have time to post at work (strange as that may sound), where I don't have my sources handy. In other words, I'm willing to "recall", but it's great when someone can follow up with the exact reference I'm alluding to.
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PS In other words, the posts I made in the "Deep Gnome Cities" thread could use a lot of double-checking. :-) |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 15:08:43
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 15:15:57
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Interesting...
Although very little has been detailed about the possible inclusion of this PrC, I can see that it could provide some very intriguing NPC alternatives...
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Thomas M. Reid
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
334 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jun 2004 : 02:03:12
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Originally posted by The Sage
Although very little has been detailed about the possible inclusion of this PrC, I can see that it could provide some very intriguing NPC alternatives...
That particular PrC was picked up from a Wizards web article Elaine wrote a couple of years ago that tied into her Counselors & Kings trilogy. I left it pretty much intact (though the developers and editors might have further tinkered with it).
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Hymn
Senior Scribe
Sweden
514 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jun 2004 : 03:01:58
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| Mr Reid conserning the info on Haalrua: is it an update (to 3ed) of the things written in the first Shining South or will it add more new stuff about the realm of magical galore. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jun 2004 : 04:40:14
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Originally posted by Thomas M. Reid
That particular PrC was picked up from a Wizards web article Elaine wrote a couple of years ago that tied into her Counselors & Kings trilogy. I left it pretty much intact (though the developers and editors might have further tinkered with it).
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That's right. Thank you for mentioning that fact. I had forgotten about Elaine Cunningham's web article. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jun 2004 : 09:54:17
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Originally posted by Thomas M. Reid
That particular PrC was picked up from a Wizards web article Elaine wrote a couple of years ago that tied into her Counselors & Kings trilogy. I left it pretty much intact (though the developers and editors might have further tinkered with it).
Thomas
Yes, that is correct. I have the hard copy of that particular article here with me now. Thanks for the reminder Mr. Reid...
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Thomas M. Reid
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
334 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jun 2004 : 14:51:13
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Originally posted by Hymn
Mr Reid conserning the info on Haalrua: is it an update (to 3ed) of the things written in the first Shining South or will it add more new stuff about the realm of magical galore.
Well, obviously it's going to be a 3.5E update to what was written in Tom Prusa's 2E work. I pulled as much information as I could from that product (as well as a host of others--the list of "based on" products in the front matter was pretty long). But there's also plenty of new material, too. Eric Boyd pointed me in a few directions for potential expansion, and I ran with it.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Thomas M. Reid
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
334 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jun 2004 : 15:25:16
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Originally posted by The Sage
Mr. Reid, could you perhaps provide us with a sampling of these "based on" products...?
Counselors & Kings Trilogy, Defenders of the Faith, Demihuman Deities, DRAGON Magazine, Dwarves Deep, Faiths & Avatars, Faiths and Pantheons, Magic of Faerūn, Masters of the Wild, Monster Manual II, Old Empires, Pages From the Mages, Pirates of the Fallen Stars, Powers & Pantheons, Prayers from the Faithful, Races of Faerūn, The Shining South, Song and Silence, Sword and Fist, Tome and Blood, and Volos Guide to All Things Magical. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jun 2004 : 15:30:40
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Originally posted by Thomas M. Reid
Counselors & Kings Trilogy, Defenders of the Faith, Demihuman Deities, DRAGON Magazine, Dwarves Deep, Faiths & Avatars, Faiths and Pantheons, Magic of Faerūn, Masters of the Wild, Monster Manual II, Old Empires, Pages From the Mages, Pirates of the Fallen Stars, Powers & Pantheons, Prayers from the Faithful, Races of Faerūn, The Shining South, Song and Silence, Sword and Fist, Tome and Blood, and Volos Guide to All Things Magical.
A very extensive list. You do research through various tomes like those and write as well?!
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Thomas M. Reid
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
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Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 05:17:00
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
A very extensive list. You do research through various tomes like those and write as well?!
On the contrary, most of those references were passed along by other helpful able bodies, most notably Eric Boyd, George Krashos, and Thomas Costa. They did most of the legwork; I just incorporated the results. Truthfully, FR design can simply no longer be done in a vacuum--there's just too much reference material to sort through.
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 07:22:46
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Originally posted by Thomas M. Reid
Truthfully, FR design can simply no longer be done in a vacuum--there's just too much reference material to sort through.
Ah Thomas, you make an FR fan giddy with happiness when you state such self-evident truths.
-- George Krashos
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Thomas M. Reid
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
334 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 15:37:45
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Originally posted by George KrashosAh Thomas, you make an FR fan giddy with happiness when you state such self-evident truths.
LOL! 
It's just so true, though. I spent a couple of years as Creative Director for FR nearly a decade ago, and it was very evident even then that I would have been hopelessly lost without folks like Julia Martin and Steven Schend to keep track of everything. I said at the time, "I don't need to know everything, or even where to look it up, but I damn sure better know who does."
In any event, I'm all for giving credit where credit is due. You guys were a huge help, and I really appreciate it.
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"A knight is not truly virtuous, only truly resolved to be so."
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Sarta
Senior Scribe
USA
505 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 19:02:13
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Well, we the readers really appreciate the attention to detail...
... although it gives us less to gripe about on message boards and that is what we do best.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jun 2004 : 10:08:15
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Originally posted by Thomas M. Reid
Counselors & Kings Trilogy, Defenders of the Faith, Demihuman Deities, DRAGON Magazine, Dwarves Deep, Faiths & Avatars, Faiths and Pantheons, Magic of Faerūn, Masters of the Wild, Monster Manual II, Old Empires, Pages From the Mages, Pirates of the Fallen Stars, Powers & Pantheons, Prayers from the Faithful, Races of Faerūn, The Shining South, Song and Silence, Sword and Fist, Tome and Blood, and Volos Guide to All Things Magical.
Ooh, that's a very comprehensive selection for all things "Shining South". Something tells me this is going to be one of my particularly favored FR tomes...
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Hymn
Senior Scribe
Sweden
514 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jun 2004 : 18:36:25
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| Why nothing from Deserts of Desolation (think I got it right), after all it describes one of the most hostile areas known in Faerun, and yes I am counting the underdark etc. |
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