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Mage Jastra Eveningfall
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Posted - 24 May 2004 :  23:42:42  Show Profile  Visit Mage Jastra Eveningfall's Homepage Send Mage Jastra Eveningfall a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Has anyone read Wyrmskull Throne or Secrets of the Magisters?

I found Secrets of the Magister to be quite fascinating, artifacts, spells, and an abbreviated roll of Magisters.
Also, Wyrmskull Throne supposedly is out of print, though it is realatively new. With such a hot topic, I'm surprised it wasn't flying off the shelves.

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Wooly Rupert
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I have both, though I can't remember now if I read Wyrmskull Throne or not. I think I did...

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I have both, though I can't remember now if I read Wyrmskull Throne or not. I think I did...



Ditto. :) But come now, why should this surprise some one, since I'm a FR junkie......

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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George Krashos
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Posted - 25 May 2004 :  05:04:46  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Secrets of the Magister is one of my favourite FR products. I usually read it once every couple of months or so. Everytime I do, I pick up something else or another reference that gets noted in my "FR Compendium" (a ratty A4 Note Book of very haphazard contents!) and saved for future use. That is one of the singular joys of Ed's work and what generally puts me off the FR work of other authors who are light on re realmslore or touch upon it superficially (i.e. base all their writing on the information in FRCS).

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The Sage
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I have to agree with George. SotM was one of my all time favorite 2e FR products (I also use the material in some of my 3e games as well).

In fact, it's also one of my 'pillage-for-ideas' resource much like George just said... Heh, must be an Australian thing...

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I see it like this: after the FR series and boxed sets gave us the geographical basics, in the early 1990s we started to get the real richness and depth of the Realms in two forms (outside novels and the F&A books), the Volo's Guides and the 128-page perfect-bound FOR series, of which Secrets was the last. A book like Secrets of the Magister or Prayers from the Faithful is bursting with ideas begetting ideas, gives me a sense of a living Realms far better than WotC's advancing timeline, and as George says the contrast is stark with the ordinary sort of sourcebook, whether 1E/2E or 3E.

Must ask Ed about spellshields...

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Mage Jastra Eveningfall
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Posted - 06 Jun 2004 :  01:42:03  Show Profile  Visit Mage Jastra Eveningfall's Homepage Send Mage Jastra Eveningfall a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What did you think of the Magister's Remembered Chapter?

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Mage Jastra Eveningfall
Acolyte

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Posted - 06 Jun 2004 :  01:50:57  Show Profile  Visit Mage Jastra Eveningfall's Homepage Send Mage Jastra Eveningfall a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Also, where, in your opinion, can one find the best resources on Seros?

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Steven Schend
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Posted - 06 Jun 2004 :  03:29:40  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mage Jastra Eveningfall

Also, where, in your opinion, can one find the best resources on Seros?



So far as I know, the only source is Sea of Fallen Stars, I'm afraid.

Of course, you can always pick my brain (or Eric's brain or George's brain) and we'll see what falls loose....

Steven
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Mage Jastra Eveningfall

Also, where, in your opinion, can one find the best resources on Seros?



Serôs was nicely detailed in the 2nd edition supplement Sea of Fallen Stars. I'd say that's the best resource for that area.

I know not if it's available for download anywhere...


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George Krashos
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Posted - 06 Jun 2004 :  07:17:53  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mage Jastra Eveningfall

What did you think of the Magister's Remembered Chapter?




I loved it but after reading and re-reading it many times, I wished that Ed had given us more Magisters from the Dalelands and Moonsea, the Unapproachable East and the North. There seemed to be a preponderance of Magisters from places like Sheirtalar, the Tashalar and the Vilhon Reach. But hey, that's just me having a whinge for no real reason.

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ericlboyd
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Posted - 06 Jun 2004 :  12:07:20  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey! Some of us like places like Sheirtalar and the Tashalar.

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George Krashos
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quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

Hey! Some of us like places like Sheirtalar and the Tashalar.




Golly, these yuan-ti infiltrators sure get around, don't they?

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Mage Jastra Eveningfall
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Posted - 27 Jun 2004 :  23:41:57  Show Profile  Visit Mage Jastra Eveningfall's Homepage Send Mage Jastra Eveningfall a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Anyone read Volo's Guide To All Things Magical? I particularly enjoyed the section on artifacts, specifically the Starym Moonblade.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 28 Jun 2004 :  00:36:54  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mage Jastra Eveningfall

Anyone read Volo's Guide To All Things Magical? I particularly enjoyed the section on artifacts, specifically the Starym Moonblade.




I quite enjoyed that supplement. There was a lot of nifty stuff in there, particularly the section on magical properties of various substances.

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ericlboyd
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Posted - 28 Jun 2004 :  03:45:37  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
George,

All I can say is "Sssss ..."

;-)

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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 28 Jun 2004 :  10:21:18  Show Profile  Visit Lady Kazandra's Homepage Send Lady Kazandra a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mage Jastra Eveningfall

Anyone read Volo's Guide To All Things Magical? I particularly enjoyed the section on artifacts, specifically the Starym Moonblade.


Unfortunately, I have never had the opportunity to read this particular 'Volo' tome. Sage guards it's secrets fiercely (in another words, he's hidden it), and I have no idea why . . .

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Sarelle
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Posted - 28 Jun 2004 :  11:20:32  Show Profile Send Sarelle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ah, but you may download it behind his back!

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Arivia
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Posted - 28 Jun 2004 :  11:25:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lady Kazandra

quote:
Originally posted by Mage Jastra Eveningfall

Anyone read Volo's Guide To All Things Magical? I particularly enjoyed the section on artifacts, specifically the Starym Moonblade.


Unfortunately, I have never had the opportunity to read this particular 'Volo' tome. Sage guards it's secrets fiercely (in another words, he's hidden it), and I have no idea why . . .




Probably because it's very, very, good candy. The addictive kind. And they don't want you to have too much of that stuff. It can do...weird things to you.
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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 28 Jun 2004 :  14:27:58  Show Profile  Visit Lady Kazandra's Homepage Send Lady Kazandra a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Really?

Are you speaking from personal experience, Arivia?



Thanks for the URL, Sarelle. I had no idea this particular 'Volo' guide was available for free download.

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Mage Jastra Eveningfall
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Posted - 02 Jul 2004 :  23:27:00  Show Profile  Visit Mage Jastra Eveningfall's Homepage Send Mage Jastra Eveningfall a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Indeed, I have gained much knowledge from such downloads, though it's a pity some other resources aren't available.
I would just LOVE to get my hands on Pool of Radiance: Attack On Myth Drannor, Ruins of Myth Drannor, or several other tomes.

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The Sage
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Posted - 03 Jul 2004 :  06:29:31  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And that's exactly why you'd love to get your hands on those particular Realms tomes. It's because they are so rarely available that they are not included in WotC free downloads. They've said as much before.

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Mage Jastra Eveningfall
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Posted - 08 Jul 2004 :  18:12:57  Show Profile  Visit Mage Jastra Eveningfall's Homepage Send Mage Jastra Eveningfall a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I guess that's life, isn't it.

Well, to change the topic, who has read anyopne of the Arcane Age material? (Such as Netheril: Empire of Magic, How the Mighty Have Fallen, Cormanthyr: Empire of Elves, and theFall of Myth Drannor.)

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 08 Jul 2004 :  19:27:24  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mage Jastra Eveningfall

I guess that's life, isn't it.

Well, to change the topic, who has read anyopne of the Arcane Age material? (Such as Netheril: Empire of Magic, How the Mighty Have Fallen, Cormanthyr: Empire of Elves, and theFall of Myth Drannor.)



Again, I've read them all; I bought each item as it came out.

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SiriusBlack
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quote:
Originally posted by Mage Jastra Eveningfall
Well, to change the topic, who has read anyopne of the Arcane Age material? (Such as Netheril: Empire of Magic, How the Mighty Have Fallen, Cormanthyr: Empire of Elves, and theFall of Myth Drannor.)



I've read the latter two and have scanned through the other items mentioned. CEoE is one of my favorite items.
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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack
CEoE is one of my favorite items.

I'll agree with that. Both the Netheril and Cormanthyr tomes are some of the most used FR tomes in my collection. I refer to them constantly, for ideas, adventure hooks, FR facts, or just plain reading.

I've never run How the Mighty Have Fallen adventure though. I have simply never had the urge. I prefer to run my own homebrew adventures in the Arcane Age.

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Lady Kazandra
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quote:
Originally posted by Mage Jastra Eveningfall

I guess that's life, isn't it.

Well, to change the topic, who has read anyopne of the Arcane Age material? (Such as Netheril: Empire of Magic, How the Mighty Have Fallen, Cormanthyr: Empire of Elves, and theFall of Myth Drannor.)

I haven't read through the Netheril boxed set yet. I'm still waiting to read the Arcane Age novels based in Netheril. Does the boxed set spoil the story in the Netheril trilogy in any way?

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Lady Kazandra

quote:
Originally posted by Mage Jastra Eveningfall

I guess that's life, isn't it.

Well, to change the topic, who has read anyopne of the Arcane Age material? (Such as Netheril: Empire of Magic, How the Mighty Have Fallen, Cormanthyr: Empire of Elves, and theFall of Myth Drannor.)

I haven't read through the Netheril boxed set yet. I'm still waiting to read the Arcane Age novels based in Netheril. Does the boxed set spoil the story in the Netheril trilogy in any way?




As I recall, no.

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Lady Kazandra

quote:
Originally posted by Mage Jastra Eveningfall

I guess that's life, isn't it.

Well, to change the topic, who has read anyopne of the Arcane Age material? (Such as Netheril: Empire of Magic, How the Mighty Have Fallen, Cormanthyr: Empire of Elves, and theFall of Myth Drannor.)

I haven't read through the Netheril boxed set yet. I'm still waiting to read the Arcane Age novels based in Netheril. Does the boxed set spoil the story in the Netheril trilogy in any way?




As I recall, no.

Wooly is correct. Aside from a few minor references to places, and several mentions of Netherese historical facts, there's very little in the story of the Netheril trilogy that could be spoiled by reading through the Netheril boxed set.

Mind you, I'd always felt that the Netheril trilogy was one of the poorest Realms stories ever published, at least in terms of plot and character development.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Mind you, I'd always felt that the Netheril trilogy was one of the poorest Realms stories ever published, at least in terms of plot and character development.


Yeah, ditto that. It was far from being one of the better trilogies. I'd not recommend it to anyone unless they either A) wanted to read everything Realms-related, or B) really wanted to read more about Netheril.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Yeah, ditto that. It was far from being one of the better trilogies. I'd not recommend it to anyone unless they either A) wanted to read everything Realms-related, or B) really wanted to read more about Netheril.



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