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Dargoth
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 Posted - 18 Aug 2004 : 05:53:17
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and how easy would it be to incorperate it into Undermountain?
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Wooly Rupert
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 18 Aug 2004 : 08:05:20
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
What is this source book? I've heard nothing of it...
and a non WOTC source book its basicly an 800 page Dungeon Crawl (hence my interest in inserting parts of it into Halasters halls) |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 18 Aug 2004 : 08:57:27
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Originally posted by Dargoth
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
What is this source book? I've heard nothing of it...
and a non WOTC source book its basicly an 800 page Dungeon Crawl (hence my interest in inserting parts of it into Halasters halls)
Who prints it? Have you a link to their page? |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 18 Aug 2004 : 13:29:34
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| This intrigued me when I first heard of it, but the fact that it claims to use every monster from the monster manuals is a bit silly and would be too forced. Yeah I know that you dont have to use the monsters as they show them but it just makes the product sound like a bit monster bash and nothing more. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 18 Aug 2004 : 15:20:03
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Originally posted by Lord Rad
This intrigued me when I first heard of it, but the fact that it claims to use every monster from the monster manuals is a bit silly and would be too forced. Yeah I know that you dont have to use the monsters as they show them but it just makes the product sound like a bit monster bash and nothing more.
That does sound silly and forced, even given the size of the dungeon.
The dungeon does look intriguing, but what DM has a $100 sitting around to drop on one gaming product? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 18 Aug 2004 : 15:43:28
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I've been thinking about purchasing it, if only because I'm curious.
However, I have yet to read any reviews that "paint" the tome in a particularly pleasant light...
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 18 Aug 2004 : 16:05:29
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Originally posted by Lord Rad
This intrigued me when I first heard of it, but the fact that it claims to use every monster from the monster manuals is a bit silly and would be too forced. Yeah I know that you dont have to use the monsters as they show them but it just makes the product sound like a bit monster bash and nothing more.
Exactly what I fear the product will end up being. I'm curious to read some reviews, but they will have to be outstanding to get me to shell out this much money. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 18 Aug 2004 : 17:27:22
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| So does anyone know if this dungeon has any backstory, or is it just a big dungeon that exists simply to exist? The part about every single monster being in there kinda makes me think there's no backstory to this place. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 18 Aug 2004 : 17:46:35
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
So does anyone know if this dungeon has any backstory, or is it just a big dungeon that exists simply to exist? The part about every single monster being in there kinda makes me think there's no backstory to this place.
I vaguely recall a thread on ENWorld where this item was being discussed. Perhaps it might have some more information. I have yet to hear anything about a back story simply loads of information about how many maps, rooms, etc., the dungeon will have.
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
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Posted - 18 Aug 2004 : 19:01:35
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I cant imagine it being anything of any depth and storyline. I imagine it to be a bunch of maps of flowing corridors and rooms.. just a blank canvas.
...and I never realised it was $100! wow, I dont think ill bother. Undermountain is more than good enough  |
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Mystery_Man
Senior Scribe
USA
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36876 Posts |
Posted - 18 Aug 2004 : 19:09:36
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Originally posted by Lord Rad
I cant imagine it being anything of any depth and storyline. I imagine it to be a bunch of maps of flowing corridors and rooms.. just a blank canvas.
...and I never realised it was $100! wow, I dont think ill bother. Undermountain is more than good enough
Indeed! I quite like Undermountain, myself. Not only is it under my fave city, but it's also got a detailed history, and, thanks to modules and Dragon Magazine articles, it's changed since it's original presentation. Having a setting that changes and evolves is one of the things that draws me in.  |
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Lashan
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 18 Aug 2004 : 19:17:09
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| It would almost be better if there WASN'T a story with the dungeon. That way you can insert it easier into any game world. You can create any story you want. I think any DM would have to change the final encounters to really make it fit into the game world anyways. |
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Karesch
Learned Scribe
Canada
199 Posts |
Posted - 19 Aug 2004 : 00:00:20
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I could see it being of use to some people, as an "insertable" dungeon for someone who needed a vast labyrinth of "dungeonness" quickly, as it could most likely be used in part, as well as being used as a whole entity, However, personally, with a background in architecture, I would find it a waste of money to have a $100 "generic" dungeon to be used here and there. 'tis far cheaper and more effective for me to create my own layouts for something of that nature. I could almost summon the courage to spend that much, if it was a realms specific book of various large-massive dungeons and the like, as it would fill in some desired detail of places. However, as a generic item... I would rather rely on my own talent, than pay a hefty sum such as that for someone else to do it.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36876 Posts |
Posted - 19 Aug 2004 : 00:35:25
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A while back (like, 2 years ago, at least), there was a free CD-ROM stuck in with Dragon Magazine. One of the things on that CD-ROM was a random dungeon generator. You set it for how many rooms and what dungeon level it was, and it not only generated the map, but it populated it, too.
If I needed a quickie dungeon, I'd reach for that little utility long before I reached for a $100 sourcebook. |
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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 19 Aug 2004 00:36:11 |
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Karesch
Learned Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 19 Aug 2004 : 01:05:55
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Indeed,... I wonder if one could get ahold of a copy of that CD anymore. I don't subscribe to dungeon mag, unfortunately, however, that sounds like a useful utility.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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36876 Posts |
Posted - 19 Aug 2004 : 03:02:43
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Originally posted by Karesch
Indeed,... I wonder if one could get ahold of a copy of that CD anymore. I don't subscribe to dungeon mag, unfortunately, however, that sounds like a useful utility.
K
If the file is small enough, I may be able to e-mail it to you. I'd have to check the file size, though (which I can't do until I get home in a couple hours), and then I'd need your e-mail addy...
Edit: I just checked the file size. Zipped, it's 216 KB. It is a .exe file, so some e-mail systems might not let it thru. |
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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 19 Aug 2004 05:55:08 |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 19 Aug 2004 : 06:49:06
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Edit: I just checked the file size. Zipped, it's 216 KB. It is a .exe file, so some e-mail systems might not let it thru.
If they incorporate the MSN system (like Hotmail), then no, they probably won't.
However, if you send my the file Wooly, I may be able to host it on my website (provided I can get permission for that  ).
Let me know, and I'll provide you with an alternate address that doesn't use the MSN system.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 19 Aug 2004 : 08:48:35
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Edit: I just checked the file size. Zipped, it's 216 KB. It is a .exe file, so some e-mail systems might not let it thru.
If they incorporate the MSN system (like Hotmail), then no, they probably won't.
However, if you send my the file Wooly, I may be able to host it on my website (provided I can get permission for that ).
Let me know, and I'll provide you with an alternate address that doesn't use the MSN system.
I just sent it to the Hotmail addy I had for you. Let me know if it doesn't come thru. |
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tauster
Senior Scribe
Germany
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Posted - 19 Aug 2004 : 08:50:22
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Karesch
Indeed,... I wonder if one could get ahold of a copy of that CD anymore. I don't subscribe to dungeon mag, unfortunately, however, that sounds like a useful utility.
K
If the file is small enough, I may be able to e-mail it to you. I'd have to check the file size, though (which I can't do until I get home in a couple hours), and then I'd need your e-mail addy...
Edit: I just checked the file size. Zipped, it's 216 KB. It is a .exe file, so some e-mail systems might not let it thru.
i´d like to see this tool, too! there are a number of dungeon-generating programs out there, but none that i found worth using...
perhaps you could upload it on some free webspace- provider? www.domaindlx.com is a good one (easy to subscribe, no limited, 100mb filesize webspace). otherwise, if you could just mail me: tauster@everymail.net
thx!!!
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 19 Aug 2004 : 08:59:44
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Edit: I just checked the file size. Zipped, it's 216 KB. It is a .exe file, so some e-mail systems might not let it thru.
If they incorporate the MSN system (like Hotmail), then no, they probably won't.
However, if you send my the file Wooly, I may be able to host it on my website (provided I can get permission for that ).
Let me know, and I'll provide you with an alternate address that doesn't use the MSN system.
I just sent it to the Hotmail addy I had for you. Let me know if it doesn't come thru.
It appears to have come through intact. Feel free to send it across to others...
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Saime
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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5517 Posts |
Posted - 19 Aug 2004 : 16:15:08
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Originally posted by Saime
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I vaguely recall a thread on ENWorld where this item was being discussed.
http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=80428
Thanks for the link! Anyone with plans to try and incorperate this into the Realms such as Undermountain as Dargoth put forth? |
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tauster
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 19 Aug 2004 : 18:58:38
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thx wooly!
after trying it out i remembered that i used it already in a solo-adventure: some months ago, i sent a certain doomguide of kelemvor through a minor part of tilvertons sewers / dwarvish catacombs (1370 DR). it was a pure fun (at least for me as dm), involving the cleric being almost bitten to death by a single osquip and later meeting a group of ghouls who in the end paralyzed him after he killed most of them, believed him dead and hung him in their larder, where he awoke on a meat-hook alongside several others who were not as lucky as he...
after some playing around with the options, one usually comes up with a more or less playable dungeon, but the most results are somewhat unlogical...
for all who want to give it a try: http://people.freenet.de/chefseehund/dungeon.exe
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Saime
Acolyte
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Wooly Rupert
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Karesch
Learned Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 20 Aug 2004 : 01:39:04
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indeed, I was about to say that my email link in my profile is to my server based email, which doesn't have a filesize cap on it, and there's also my hotmail account listing (My MSN contact) so, either way, I can get it. But those links worked out too Thanks folks
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 20 Aug 2004 : 16:31:34
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In this report from GenCon, GamingReport offers some thoughts on this product:
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There has been a big push for AEG's new "World's Largest Dungeon" release, premiering at the show. And its worth the hype! One thing that catches you of guard is the size of the book. The size is the kind of
thing that makes you say, “WHOAH, thats Huge!". The size of the book is comparable to the size of the Websters Dictionary. A bit higher priced than most RPG releases on the floor, but gamers will easily get their monies worth. And any self respecting DM should own this book. This is destined to be a classic, for the sheer scope alone.
I know everyone's entitled to their opinion, but this writer sounds like an AEG sales person. "Any self respecting DM?" Please. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 20 Aug 2004 : 17:35:14
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
In this report from GenCon, GamingReport offers some thoughts on this product:
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There has been a big push for AEG's new "World's Largest Dungeon" release, premiering at the show. And its worth the hype! One thing that catches you of guard is the size of the book. The size is the kind of
thing that makes you say, “WHOAH, thats Huge!". The size of the book is comparable to the size of the Websters Dictionary. A bit higher priced than most RPG releases on the floor, but gamers will easily get their monies worth. And any self respecting DM should own this book. This is destined to be a classic, for the sheer scope alone.
I know everyone's entitled to their opinion, but this writer sounds like an AEG sales person. "Any self respecting DM?" Please.
Indeed...
And.. "A bit higher priced than most RPG releases on the floor"? I'm sorry, guy, but something that retails for 2.5 times what the pricier game books go for is something more than "A bit higher priced"! |
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Anyone got the Worlds Largest Dungeon source book?
