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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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 Posted - 26 Jul 2005 : 23:02:40
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So today I was looking thru a pdf of the manual to the first Baldur's Gate game -- specifically, the Volo's Guide to Baldur's Gate section of it.
One particular line caught my attention. In the discussion of power groups, under the Harpers entry, I found this sentence (boldfacing is mine):
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Their aim is to keep the dangers to civilization at bay, including goblin raids, dragon flights, and the insidious control of other groups such as the Zhentarim, Red Wizards, the Commer, or the Cult of the Dragon.
So, who are the Commer? Am I having a brainfart, or was this just something made up for that game?
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Kentinal
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Posted - 26 Jul 2005 : 23:12:57
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Seach appears to indicate a term of disruptive New Comers. One "comming" to build power base.
I can not find a deffinition of the term and only see it in context of a title not desired to earn or be called.
Edit: Only other use appears to indicate Commonor however that does not fit in context of your quote from David "Zeb" Cook well at all. Nor does a newbie which still appears most common useage on the web.
I give up, have not found much more info of this evil group of people. Prehaps Ed knows. |
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Kuje
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Posted - 27 Jul 2005 : 00:48:27
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
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Posted - 27 Jul 2005 : 13:21:10
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If I had to guess, I'd say it was a group the BIOWARE guys planned to use in their games and never followed up on it. At least I've never heard of the Commer....but then I've forgotten an awful amount of Realmslore over the years. I don't have the wild-enough hair or beard like Ed to hold it all in, trapped like flies in a web.... 
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Dargoth
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Posted - 27 Jul 2005 : 13:44:57
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Originally posted by Steven Schend
If I had to guess, I'd say it was a group the BIOWARE guys planned to use in their games and never followed up on it. At least I've never heard of the Commer....but then I've forgotten an awful amount of Realmslore over the years. I don't have the wild-enough hair or beard like Ed to hold it all in, trapped like flies in a web....
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Kajehase
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Posted - 27 Jul 2005 : 16:17:06
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 So that's why there's no author-photos of Elaine in her books
And no need to tell me the real reason, I've read it elsewhere. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 27 Jul 2005 : 17:40:58
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Have you ever noticed that just about all the FR authors have at least a Goatee?
I'll have to remember that, when I decide to try to get something published. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 27 Jul 2005 : 17:41:33
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Originally posted by Kajehase
So that's why there's no author-photos of Elaine in her books
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ericlboyd
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Posted - 27 Jul 2005 : 17:57:29
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Originally posted by Dargoth
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Originally posted by Steven Schend
If I had to guess, I'd say it was a group the BIOWARE guys planned to use in their games and never followed up on it. At least I've never heard of the Commer....but then I've forgotten an awful amount of Realmslore over the years. I don't have the wild-enough hair or beard like Ed to hold it all in, trapped like flies in a web....
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Have you ever noticed that just about all the FR authors have at least a Goatee?
Blame Elminster and his excessive use of the "hairy" cantrip (1e ref).
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
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Posted - 27 Jul 2005 : 19:18:45
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
Blame Elminster and his excessive use of the "hairy" cantrip (1e ref).
--Eric, who's not sure how he got Khelben's signature shock of white on his chin
Give that back! It's Mine! 
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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 07 Aug 2005 : 20:42:13
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Have you ever noticed that just about all the FR authors have at least a Goatee?
Guilty. 
And the more time passes, the thicker and longer it becomes. . .
Must be absorption of Realmslore.
Or natural growth, something like that.
Cheers
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Faraer
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Posted - 07 Aug 2005 : 20:50:40
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Vollbart!
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 29 Aug 2005 : 02:16:46
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Resurrecting this thread for a last hurrah...
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
This time, Ed makes reply to Wooly Rupert:
Yes, the Commer were, so far as I know, created by the computer game designers, to be “set up” as a background foe for future games. Despite Volo’s name appearing on that manual, I didn’t write it (though a lot of it was, of course, drawn from both my published lore and unpublished notes) and in fact have never seen it, despite the Realms agreement.
We must assume that the Commer are still “out there,” lurking, perhaps close than one might thUUURK
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