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RodOdom
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 Posted - 20 Feb 2006 : 14:10:28
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First of all, apologies for peppering this board with trivia.
Where are the Rat Hills, that monster infested city dump of Waterdeep? I can't find it on any of the maps of Waterdeep.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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ShadowJack
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 20 Feb 2006 : 15:32:36
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| The novel waterdeep City of Splendors has a neat, quick side trip into the Rat Hills by one of the heroes. I like that part of the novel and the monsters he encounters... I might work that into a campaign... |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 20 Feb 2006 : 16:01:55
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
It's outside of the city, to the south, I believe.
Aye... south of the city.
I don't think the maps in Steven's CoS or City System show where it is though...
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 20 Feb 2006 : 17:03:23
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| I believe the 2E boxed set has some additional info on the rat hills and encounters that could occur |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 20 Feb 2006 : 17:20:17
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
It's outside of the city, to the south, I believe.
Aye... south of the city.
I don't think the maps in Steven's CoS or City System show where it is though...
I just checked my pdf of the City of Splendors boxed set, and it didn't show the Rat Hills. In fact, the description didn't even say that the Hills lie south of Waterdeep! I found that reference elsewhere.
Considering the size of the Rat Hills (before the Conflagration, it was over four miles wide!), I'd say it lies at least a few miles outside the city -- close enough for stuff to be dumped there on a regular basis, but not so close as to be a health hazard or to be threatening to expand to the city walls. |
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RodOdom
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 20 Feb 2006 : 17:30:52
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| Thank you. I too had a problem finding any firm description of its location. |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 20 Feb 2006 : 17:57:18
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| The Rat Hills are marked on the 'environs of Waterdeep' map in Dragon #128. Their centre is shown just under 2 hexes (so about 10 miles) south-southeast of Waterdeep along the coast. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 20 Feb 2006 : 18:06:15
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Originally posted by Faraer
The Rat Hills are marked on the 'environs of Waterdeep' map in Dragon #128. Their centre is shown just under 2 hexes (so about 10 miles) south-southeast of Waterdeep along the coast.
Ah, you are correct. It is on page 9 of that magazine. |
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Alaundo
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Posted - 20 Feb 2006 : 20:41:56
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Originally posted by RodOdom
First of all, apologies for peppering this board with trivia.
Where are the Rat Hills, that monster infested city dump of Waterdeep? I can't find it on any of the maps of Waterdeep.
Well met
"pepper" away, RodOdom. Trivia, it is not. For we encourage any discussions of Realmslore herein, no matter how small. Keep 'em coming  |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 21 Feb 2006 : 01:17:44
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Originally posted by Wooly RupertI just checked my pdf of the City of Splendors boxed set, and it didn't show the Rat Hills. In fact, the description didn't even say that the Hills lie south of Waterdeep! I found that reference elsewhere.
Well, it references where the Rat Hills are as part of the Dungsweepers' Guild write-up... so it's still an appropriate place for the reference I suppose.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 21 Feb 2006 : 02:08:22
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Wooly RupertI just checked my pdf of the City of Splendors boxed set, and it didn't show the Rat Hills. In fact, the description didn't even say that the Hills lie south of Waterdeep! I found that reference elsewhere.
Well, it references where the Rat Hills are as part of the Dungsweepers' Guild write-up... so it's still an appropriate place for the reference I suppose.
Yeah, that was where I found the reference... Kinda odd that it wasn't in the description of the locale, though. |
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 25 Feb 2006 : 18:08:18
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| Since I have been on the original FR atlas sourcebook kick lately, I wanted to share that the rat hills is marked on the map, just south of waterdeep. The map scale is 1 inch = 100 miles, My estimate is that is is about 5 to 10 miles south of the city of splendors |
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warlockco
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 26 Feb 2006 : 05:39:03
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Originally posted by warlockco
FR1 Waterdeep should show where it is.
Not to be a stickler, but the proper name is FR1 Waterdeep and the North. 
... And a quick scan of the pdf found one reference to the Rat Hills (in the Dungsweepers' Guild section, where it said little more than the fact that the Rat Hills are south of the city), and I didn't see it on the main map. |
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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 26 Feb 2006 05:44:26 |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 26 Feb 2006 : 08:01:25
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by warlockco
FR1 Waterdeep should show where it is.
Not to be a stickler, but the proper name is FR1 Waterdeep and the North.
... And a quick scan of the pdf found one reference to the Rat Hills (in the Dungsweepers' Guild section, where it said little more than the fact that the Rat Hills are south of the city), and I didn't see it on the main map.
Then I must be thinking of the Dragon article that was previously mentioned that was before FR1 was released then.
And I stopped at Waterdeep, because I couldn't remember if it was "the North" or "and Environs"  and was being too lazy to dig for it  |
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 26 Feb 2006 : 08:02:08
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I just took a quick look at the map myself and I couldn't see it either on the map regarding the Rat Hills.
So, aside from the map in Dragon #128, has it been detailed on any other map for Waterdeep?
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
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Posted - 26 Feb 2006 : 15:14:10
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
I just took a quick look at the map myself and I couldn't see it either on the map regarding the Rat Hills.
So, aside from the map in Dragon #128, has it been detailed on any other map for Waterdeep?
It should be on the map of the infamous, never released second web enhancement to City of Splendors: Waterdeep ... which I've learned has slipped to March release.
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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 26 Feb 2006 : 16:03:12
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Thanks for sharing Eric. At last... not only do we finally get the second CoSWE . . . but we also gain access to the most up-to-date map of the City of Splendors currently available.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 26 Feb 2006 : 16:07:51
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Ah, we'll finally see that long-wanted web enhancement... I was beginning to think it was vaporware!
Thanks for letting us know it's coming, Eric, and that it will have the map we seek.
And Lady K, 'tis good to see you again! |
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RodOdom
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 26 Feb 2006 : 17:00:47
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| I just got the most updated patch of the electronic FR Atlas. The Rat Hills is included, just to the south of Waterdeep. |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 27 Feb 2006 : 00:08:12
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
I just took a quick look at the map myself and I couldn't see it either on the map regarding the Rat Hills.
So, aside from the map in Dragon #128, has it been detailed on any other map for Waterdeep?
It should be on the map of the infamous, never released second web enhancement to City of Splendors: Waterdeep ... which I've learned has slipped to March release.
--Eric
Can we get that in writing from someone?
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Dargoth
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Posted - 27 Feb 2006 : 01:25:47
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
I just took a quick look at the map myself and I couldn't see it either on the map regarding the Rat Hills.
So, aside from the map in Dragon #128, has it been detailed on any other map for Waterdeep?
It should be on the map of the infamous, never released second web enhancement to City of Splendors: Waterdeep ... which I've learned has slipped to March release.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 27 Feb 2006 : 16:28:00
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
I just took a quick look at the map myself and I couldn't see it either on the map regarding the Rat Hills.
So, aside from the map in Dragon #128, has it been detailed on any other map for Waterdeep?
It should be on the map of the infamous, never released second web enhancement to City of Splendors: Waterdeep ... which I've learned has slipped to March release.
--Eric
"Ah... the circle is now complete. When I left Candlekeep I was but the learner scribe wondering when the second CoSWE would be released. Now I am the master!"
Thanks for the details Eric . I can't wait...
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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 28 Feb 2006 : 00:36:52
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More SW . . .
Keep it in the Realms Sage.
And to give this post some hint of "on-topicness" . . . Eric, will this map for Waterdeep in the WE be just one page of the PDF? Or multiple pages meaning you'd have to print it out to make proper use of it?
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 28 Feb 2006 : 04:50:03
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
More SW . . .
Keep it in the Realms Sage.
And to give this post some hint of "on-topicness" . . . Eric, will this map for Waterdeep in the WE be just one page of the PDF? Or multiple pages meaning you'd have to print it out to make proper use of it?
In a way, I'm hoping for multiple pages... because at least it would allow for greater detailing of specific areas. But a one-page map is just as good  .
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Arivia
Great Reader
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Posted - 14 Mar 2006 : 17:47:35
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| Something I just found: There's a reference to the Rat Hills in the Nyth entry in Monsters of Faerun. |
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