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keijemon
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Posted - 22 Mar 2006 :  03:17:34  Show Profile  Visit keijemon's Homepage Send keijemon a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Hello, a new member here, and already with questions, imagine that

So I've been thinking up this story line, and realised I need a somewhat exotic location for it (ok maybe not exotic, just not a well known and documented one). I realise that exact match may not exist, so I'm going to list the criteria and I'll welcome any suggestions that come close to matching the most of them (you don't need to provide acual descriptions if it's present on the web or in source books, just give book title and page number or a link). Here goes:

1) Wooden area (I'll start you off easy )
2) Has a human settlement, fairly sizable city (stone structures, not huts), but not too big, let's keep it under 40k people.
3) Trade rout(s), but this is not high priority, a major road for the region in the vicinity would be nice though
4) Wood or Wild elves clans in the woods, but good distance away from humans, so that if a human was to go into a forset he'd have to look long and hard, not because they are hiding (though they should avoid) but because they are way off. NO sun or moon elves (as in groups, if one or two venture in a party, that's ok)
5) Terrain either has lakes (or at least doesn't preclude existance of lakes), this too is easy I suppose. But far away from seas and oceans.
6) No major power has interests there, so elminster (or any other chosen) wouldn't stuble in there "on the way somewhere", if Zents gonna have like 5 people disappear there, they wouldn't come with armies, Thay stays away etc. you get the idea. Though it's ok if some underground organizations have representives, major road/trade rout should warrant some present from "mafia". Basically the place is crawling with non magical criminal organizations, magical ones may have reps but just as a check mark on the list.
7) Entrance to underdark, but away from any major drow or duergar settlements, by major I mean Menzoberanzan, but maybe there are a few thousand drow live under not too far (less than a week walk in underdark maybe?) so the drow may (and should) poke from the shadows, but not march an army or anything.
8) Place should have some rich history, like some huge battle, maybe there was a boat load of dragons at some time, preferably no ties to Netherise though. But those times should be long gone.

Now I can just make one up like that, but what I'm looking for is for it to fit in. I need to have it populated with merchant guilds, different churches, some write up on the city, like who hates who, how poeple interact and govern, what are political battles/what groups vie for power. A nice city layout and architechture would be nice too. And a connections to the outside world that I can follow. Say some very rich merchants of Sword Coast go there to retire, but I can follow their past back to the Coast or something. Political/economic tiest to big cities (Waterdeep and such) are highly welcome.

The reason I want it that way (burgeoning, but uninteresting to the powers that be) is so that if things start going amuck, it should literaly take a spell that emulates a nuclear explosion likes of which our Earth hasn't seen to get the who's who of Faerun to take notice.

P.S. While we on the subject of nuclear weapons, would Mystra mind if I used such a spell? Not that I can, I just want to know how intervening Mystra would get on stuff of this magnitude? Would she let me cast it, but send someone to deal with me, or would she disalow the spell from working?

whew... long post. Thank you for reading and replies

The greatest trick Ao ever pulled, is convincing Toril he didn't exist.

Edited by - keijemon on 22 Mar 2006 03:27:03

scererar
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Posted - 22 Mar 2006 :  03:28:28  Show Profile Send scererar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Silverymoon and the silver marches area. This would have just about everything you asked for.
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keijemon
Acolyte

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Posted - 22 Mar 2006 :  03:34:57  Show Profile  Visit keijemon's Homepage Send keijemon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
yeah, I'd really like it there (was my first thought acutally) but Alustriel is there, she'll notice presence of powerful mage, will keep tabs etc. I don't want the strong messing around, I'll move into one of the major cities of the north once I want to take on the big ones.

Hmm... maybe if I go further north (and a bit east)? somewhere in unclaimed terrioty without too much fighting with Orcs? Is there such a place or are orcs everywhere?

The greatest trick Ao ever pulled, is convincing Toril he didn't exist.
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scererar
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 22 Mar 2006 :  03:43:30  Show Profile Send scererar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by keijemon

yeah, I'd really like it there (was my first thought acutally) but Alustriel is there, she'll notice presence of powerful mage, will keep tabs etc. I don't want the strong messing around, I'll move into one of the major cities of the north once I want to take on the big ones.

Hmm... maybe if I go further north (and a bit east)? somewhere in unclaimed terrioty without too much fighting with Orcs? Is there such a place or are orcs everywhere?



Maybe Check out Damara, the moonsea region, or maybe go south to the dragon reach area.
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Thauramarth
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Posted - 22 Mar 2006 :  19:35:51  Show Profile Send Thauramarth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by keijemon

Hello, a new member here, and already with questions, imagine that

So I've been thinking up this story line, and realised I need a somewhat exotic location for it (ok maybe not exotic, just not a well known and documented one). I realise that exact match may not exist, so I'm going to list the criteria and I'll welcome any suggestions that come close to matching the most of them (you don't need to provide acual descriptions if it's present on the web or in source books, just give book title and page number or a link). Here goes:



How about one of the cities in the Shining Planes (Assam, Lhesayl, or Ormath)? The locations have been detailed to some degree in "The Vilhon Reach" (2nd edition product available as a free download from Wizards' website? It has some trade routes, but it's not in the way of one of the big powers (and therefore unlikely to attract the attention of the very high and mighty), the Gulthmere Forest is nearby (there could be elves in there), the Lake of the Long Arm is nearby (and where's there's one lake, there's bound to be more)... The Vilhon Reach does not provide a whole lot of detail on those cities, but it provides the basics, which you can flesh out (and, by the way, Westgate is not too far, and it's close to Amn and Tethyr (who, apparently, have invaded the Shining Plains in the past), Turmish, and whatnot, which could provide your links with "the big cities".
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P.S. While we on the subject of nuclear weapons, would Mystra mind if I used such a spell? Not that I can, I just want to know how intervening Mystra would get on stuff of this magnitude? Would she let me cast it, but send someone to deal with me, or would she disalow the spell from working?



I personally do not think that Mystra would disallow anyone to cause nuclear explosions... per se. However, a spell of that power could very well be damaging to the Weave. If that it the case, Mystra will get on the case, I believe. I do not know if Mystra has the power to stop anyone from trying to cast a spell (her pre-predecessor did not stop Karsus from casting his Karsus' Avatar spell), but she may direct some of her servants to intervene, or the servants may intervene themselves. Mystra and/or her servants could get wind of the impending spell by the preparations (gathering components, "a disturbance in the For... Weave", sorry). Even if the spell "goes off" once, chances are that a great many mages in the Realms will try to grab it, either to stop it from being used again, or to use it for themselves. And I should think that at that point, at least, the Chosen should come in, grab the spell, and hide it (not destroy every trace of it, after all, it is a work of Art), to keep too many eager and foolish mages from grabbing it and lay waste to Toril and (as a result) the Weave.

Cheerio,
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Beirnadri Magranth
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Posted - 25 Mar 2006 :  07:29:15  Show Profile  Visit Beirnadri Magranth's Homepage Send Beirnadri Magranth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
hmm cool im playing a sun elf wizard near silverymoon and had the same problem (alustriel) so i moved south closer to everlund. in the wild north even short distances suffice to buffer curious "epics".

"You came here to be a martyr in a great big bang of glory... instead you will die with a whimper."
::moussaoui tries to interrupt::
"You will never get a chance to speak again and that's an appropriate ending."

-Judge Brinkema
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scererar
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 25 Mar 2006 :  07:44:18  Show Profile Send scererar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Beirnadri Magranth

hmm cool im playing a sun elf wizard near silverymoon and had the same problem (alustriel) so i moved south closer to everlund. in the wild north even short distances suffice to buffer curious "epics".



Here is a question.... It seems you all are trying your best to avoid the chosen. However, both parties seem to be or have some sort of mage qualaties. Don't you think that Mystra, will notify "any chosen" to stamp out any over-powered or inconsistant scheme you may be plotting??? Something of this magnatude would be reals shatteringm I do not feel that Mystra, as the godess of magic would stand by idle.
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keijemon
Acolyte

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Posted - 25 Mar 2006 :  14:47:38  Show Profile  Visit keijemon's Homepage Send keijemon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scererar


Here is a question.... It seems you all are trying your best to avoid the chosen. However, both parties seem to be or have some sort of mage qualaties. Don't you think that Mystra, will notify "any chosen" to stamp out any over-powered or inconsistant scheme you may be plotting??? Something of this magnatude would be reals shatteringm I do not feel that Mystra, as the godess of magic would stand by idle.



umm... I only inlcuded chosen in my write up, I also included other power groups. I'm not avoiding chosen specifically (nor mystra). My qustion about nukes was actually menat to test how far I can go before someone big shows up. (and like it or not, the chosen are as big as it gets right now). I'm gonna have a very powerful NPC wizard, that doesn't like to be touched, live there. And he doesn't much care what he blows up to keep hands off of him ;)

That is why I'm looking for a place, such that unless he disintegrates the whole town, people in the "outside" world won't notice. And I think in Silverimoon, they'll notice a missing mountain and a deep crater, a result of my NPC dealing with an incumbent dragon. (he aint the type that goes dungeon hunting, if you know what I mean)

The greatest trick Ao ever pulled, is convincing Toril he didn't exist.

Edited by - keijemon on 25 Mar 2006 14:55:58
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scererar
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 25 Mar 2006 :  15:46:46  Show Profile Send scererar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by keijemon

quote:
Originally posted by scererar


Here is a question.... It seems you all are trying your best to avoid the chosen. However, both parties seem to be or have some sort of mage qualaties. Don't you think that Mystra, will notify "any chosen" to stamp out any over-powered or inconsistant scheme you may be plotting??? Something of this magnatude would be reals shatteringm I do not feel that Mystra, as the godess of magic would stand by idle.



umm... I only inlcuded chosen in my write up, I also included other power groups. I'm not avoiding chosen specifically (nor mystra). My qustion about nukes was actually menat to test how far I can go before someone big shows up. (and like it or not, the chosen are as big as it gets right now). I'm gonna have a very powerful NPC wizard, that doesn't like to be touched, live there. And he doesn't much care what he blows up to keep hands off of him ;)

That is why I'm looking for a place, such that unless he disintegrates the whole town, people in the "outside" world won't notice. And I think in Silverimoon, they'll notice a missing mountain and a deep crater, a result of my NPC dealing with an incumbent dragon. (he aint the type that goes dungeon hunting, if you know what I mean)



Sounds good, I was just trying to refer to how much one could really do, magic wise, before you would attract the attention of the powers that be. Regardless of where one resides, I would think that too much magic (nuke wise) you could do without Mystra reaching down and tapping you on the shoulder. I can see this working with the mundane rulers of a society. How about somewhere Marshy. I could see a senario of a nearby town warning people not to travel into a particular area, due to strange things going on (your character and his experiments).
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Chataro
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Posted - 25 Mar 2006 :  15:54:30  Show Profile  Visit Chataro's Homepage Send Chataro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
U would be better off trying to look for it in Maztica or Kara-tur. I don't think there is any area in the northern part of faerun without orcs, evil cults or organisation or troublesome chosens people. If u don't want it so out of place, try Carradoon. I think it suits you criteria just fine.
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scererar
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 25 Mar 2006 :  15:58:02  Show Profile Send scererar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You know, the stone lands could work. After reading all of the Cormyr related novels, this area could work. The population would consist of mostly orcs and such, but with a mage of some power, teleporting to nearby seetlements would not be difficult.
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Sian
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Denmark
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Posted - 02 Apr 2006 :  13:38:14  Show Profile  Visit Sian's Homepage Send Sian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
maybe Chondal would do ... a old area with a rich history about the former glory as a trading nation (founded Sembia)

what happened to the queen? she's much more hysterical than usual
She's a women, it happens once a month

Edited by - Sian on 02 Apr 2006 13:40:30
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