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Alaundo
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Posted - 02 Sep 2006 :  17:58:37  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
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This is a Book Club thread for Darkvision (Book 3 of The Wizards series), by Bruce R. Cordell. Please discuss chapters 15 - 22 herein.

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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 27 Sep 2006 :  00:42:13  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hm . . . I doubt it will be of any consequense, but did anyone else catch that the Halruaan captain's name was Darsson? I wonder if he is related or just happens to be named after the inventor of air conditioning . . .

So we have a name for the creature, Pandorym, and we know now that the sliver in the desert isn't a creature itself, but its a tower. So there was an ancient Imaskari tower in the Nadir? I wonder what the heck is going on. Pandorym definately seems more like a "thing" than a person though . . . guess I'll have to forge onward.

While it was interesting to have them run into them, I wish we had a bit more of an explanation of how a tribe of elves managed to end up living as dervishes in Raurin. I'm sure that that story would make for an interesting one in and of itself.

It was interesting to see Eined's take on the Adama, and to get the feeling that the Adama isn't taken very seriously within her family, although since this is the first time the religion is referenced, someone not used to the setting might not realize that not everyone uses the Adama as a dodge and that most people in the region seem to take it pretty seriously. It does seem to set the family a bit apart from others in Vaelen, which may be why they were more easily influenced by Pandorym and the whole "plangent" scheme.

I'll be interested to see if the Star Elf's new blade changes her perspective any. Will she be as likely to get drunk now, or was she using the nagging of her other sword as an excuse to cover up a deeper seated problem?

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All of these are answered, except for the elven dervishes, if you keep reading. :)

But the dervishes threw me also. I was like, whoa? Ok. How did they get there? I kinda figured their only point is to allow the star elf to get a new blade, and for something later, but ya'll find that out when you keep reading but it's kinda hinted at during the dervish scenes.

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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 27 Sep 2006 :  01:18:37  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks Kuje, I'll forge ahead . . . (I kind of doubted that much more was going to be said about the origins of the dervishes)
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Chosen of Moradin
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The concept of elven dervishes in the Raurin interest me, too. Some good ideas can sprawl from it.

One thing that I think now is about the game stats of Thormuld. The abilities that the dwarven have managed put me to think that I find the first "epic" dwarven of the Realms

Back to the book, this sequence is the most interesting, until now. The end of Sevaera was awful, and remember me of some Lovecraft books. Pandorym is hitting my nerves.

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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 29 Sep 2006 :  22:19:25  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
When it was mentioned that Pandorym was pulled from a plane beyond Faerun's cosmology, I imediately thought of the Far Realm, which was definately inspired by Lovecraft. And the Far Realm was Cordell's idea as well (introduced in Gates of Firestorm Peak).
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Lord Karsus
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Originally posted by Kuje
But the dervishes threw me also. I was like, whoa? Ok. How did they get there? I kinda figured their only point is to allow the star elf to get a new blade, and for something later, but ya'll find that out when you keep reading but it's kinda hinted at during the dervish scenes.



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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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I thought the scene where Ususi was prepared to embrace death was incredibly eerie and well-done.

Also, I really like the concept of Kiril's sword--it's a sword that supposedly has intentions of bringing about justice, but it wreaks all sorts of havoc nonetheless. I also like Kiril as a character and I have to wonder if truly is fighting back a compulsion to hurt her employer or if she is simply exaggerating.

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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 06 Apr 2007 :  22:48:18  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm hoping that Kiril will be further explored in Cordell's next book. Since its about Stardeep, I'm guessing that this will a venue that that particular character might get to shine in. A little off topic, but it does fit the template that Cordell has followed (introduce a character as a supporting character in one novel, move that character up to the star in the next book).

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Posted - 07 Apr 2007 :  05:11:08  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

I'm hoping that Kiril will be further explored in Cordell's next book. Since its about Stardeep, I'm guessing that this will a venue that that particular character might get to shine in. A little off topic, but it does fit the template that Cordell has followed (introduce a character as a supporting character in one novel, move that character up to the star in the next book).





I agree. And after reading about Kiril in this book, I'm looking forward to seeing her star in her own novel.

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initiate
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Posted - 07 Apr 2007 :  05:49:24  Show Profile  Visit initiate's Homepage Send initiate a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have not yet read Darkvision, [thinking I'll tackle it after Depths of Madness], but I've just been looking over the WotC product calendar. They've added Stardeep, and this Kiril is, as you've surmised, indeed mentioned in the product writeup as the starring character.

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