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Delzounblood
Senior Scribe
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 Posted - 10 Sep 2006 : 23:38:30
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Hi, I'm just looking for any additional info on Sossal.
What I have found is very short a tiny bit in FRCS.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 11 Sep 2006 : 01:30:50
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There is little lore on Sossal out there.
Having said that, the 2e Great Glacier tome has a little about Sossal, but not a great deal. The 2e Running the Realms sourcebook has a few details about the end of the kingship in Sossal. Other than that though, it's still a pretty undeveloped region of the Realms in terms of source material.
From Ed's scrolls, we know that on the topic of the use of surnames in Sossal, people who marry into other families, are granted a surname which passes down in a matrilineal fashion.
The best information on Sossal is found in the 2e Wizards and Rogues of the Realms and Warriors and Priests of the Realms supplements. There's a few tidbits in the 2e FRCS and Eric included a paragraph on the Sossrim in the 3e Races of Faerun. There's also some bits in the 2e The Horde boxed set.
See also the short story "The Greatest Hero Who Ever Died" by J. Robert King in Realms of Infamy for more on Sossal.
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Delzounblood
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 Sep 2006 : 11:36:07
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Thanks Sage, I was re-reading FRSC before I posted the thread and I got to thinking.
Who, why, where, what, etc:
Oh I had another question but I have seen you have answered that already for someone else some forget about that one.
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
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Posted - 12 Sep 2006 : 01:50:05
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| You should also check out the last book in the Rogue Dragons Trilogy. A large portion of it is based in Sossal. |
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Blueblade
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 12 Sep 2006 : 18:51:32
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| Ed did a Sossal writeup for someone within TSR some years back (long before the Rogue Dragons trilogy). It wasn't long, because the TSR bod who held it up at a long-ago GenCon seminar was holding up 2 pages (8.5x11, both sides). Included an Ed map and illo of locals in local dress. |
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Dewaint
Learned Scribe
Germany
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Posted - 12 Sep 2006 : 20:38:18
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great  i suspected something like this...
how are the odds to take a look on this writeup? Maybe someone who visited this long ago GenCon ... 
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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 12 Sep 2006 : 20:56:47
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Originally posted by Dewaint
great i suspected something like this...
how are the odds to take a look on this writeup? Maybe someone who visited this long ago GenCon ...
I second that...I would also like to see Ed's Sossal Write-up.. |
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Delzounblood
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 Sep 2006 : 21:26:24
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| ahem ! so would I if ANYONE can get hold of it please email me a copy cheers |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 13 Sep 2006 : 16:45:12
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| What are the chances of seeing a Sossal sourcebook? |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
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Posted - 13 Sep 2006 : 17:24:40
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| Well, Sossal is far from the happenings of the rest of Faerun and there is little published until now, so unless its included in an eventual update for the Bloodstone lands (and I have heard nothing to indicate anything like that) the chances of this are slim as I see it. But it would be a good subject for a series of web- articles (hint, hint, Eric, Ed and others) |
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Delzounblood
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 Sep 2006 : 17:28:49
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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 13 Sep 2006 : 17:33:18
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Originally posted by Jorkens
Well, Sossal is far from the happenings of the rest of Faerun...
So is Chult, Icewind Dale, the Utter East, etc.
but for some reason Sossal never gets covered, even with it's hints of an exotic, unique society, strange magics and it's wars with white dragons and frost giants... |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
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Posted - 13 Sep 2006 : 17:53:54
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| They could of course include it in a reworking of the Great Glacier. I am sorry to say this, but that supplement is among the least interesting products TSR ever released for any setting and had little to do with the realms. |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 13 Sep 2006 : 18:47:50
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| A re-write of the Great Glacier that would include Sossal (and should include Sossal) is a definite need in my bookshelf. |
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Dewaint
Learned Scribe
Germany
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Posted - 13 Sep 2006 : 21:16:35
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mhhh ....
I think Sossal should be updated with a sourcebook covering the Utter North in general. The Great Ice Sea region is full of Ruins of the old realm of Raumathar. We got some lore about old Narfell and the human ethnic groups of the region (CoR, UE, RoF) but even less about Raumathar and the mysterious sossrim.
if done thoughtfully it could cover many areas we called for (Realms version of Frostburn, more about old empires, informations about regions poorly described in the past or crying to be updated) |
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Delzounblood
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 Sep 2006 : 12:00:27
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Originally posted by kalin agrivar
but for some reason Sossal never gets covered, even with it's hints of an exotic, unique society, strange magics and it's wars with white dragons and frost giants...
Is there a reason for this? Is there a possible new FR product on the horizon? I hope so, I'm getting "Chills" thinking about it. |
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MrHedgehog
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Posted - 23 Oct 2011 : 05:53:16
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| Could someone POST some of the small amount of information rather than just saying it exists? Why do people do this? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 23 Oct 2011 : 06:12:43
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It's largely because the majority of scribes may simply not have the time to type up the information in a post which pertains to a lore-request -- especially if the information is scattered among numerous different sources.
Additionally, it's actually illegal to reproduce large amounts of such official information on a public forum. Quoting a source [or just a small portion of the official text], instead, is usually the preferred [and legal] etiquette.
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 23 Oct 2011 : 10:16:24
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| Wasn't there some Sossal Lore in the novel Frostfell? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 25 Oct 2011 : 19:58:41
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I don't recall ANY mention of Sossal in Frostfell, and I've read it three times (but I could be mistaken).
There are bits and pieces of stuff about Narfell and Raumanther though (and perhaps a Sossal tidbit is hidden somewhere in that).
The short story The Greatest Hero who Ever Lived (IIRC) is in two of the anthologies (once again, IIRC), and has probably the most Sossal info in any one place.
There is also a thread here at the keep somewhere wherein someone compiled EVERYTHING - every single mention of Sossal - in one place for easy reference, but I'm not in the mood to go looking for it. There was (briefly) a 'Sossal project' planned that never got off the ground. |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
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Posted - 26 Oct 2011 : 01:46:55
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Originally posted by MrHedgehog
Could someone POST some of the small amount of information rather than just saying it exists? Why do people do this?
Because its the realms, and part of its fun is digging for obscure lore throughout multiple books.... because inevitably while looking for something else, you find something new that also catches your fancy. Well, that and who has time to retype everything everytime someone has a question like this (I know I've thrown out hundreds of questions like this, and always people have sent me off to dig through lore... sometimes finding a treasure trove I never knew existed). |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 26 Oct 2011 : 04:24:33
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Originally posted by Markustay
I don't recall ANY mention of Sossal in Frostfell, and I've read it three times (but I could be mistaken).
They're not direct references. Merely off-hand tidbits passed in conversation between characters that I found interesting and noted for later inclusion in my notebooks.
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There is also a thread here at the keep somewhere wherein someone compiled EVERYTHING - every single mention of Sossal - in one place for easy reference, but I'm not in the mood to go looking for it.
See scribe coach's 18 April 2010 post on page one of this scroll.
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There was (briefly) a 'Sossal project' planned that never got off the ground.
Well, I've my draft write-up focusing on the music of Sossal. |
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