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Vetrinus
Acolyte
Germany
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 Posted - 07 Dec 2006 : 21:59:32
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Hi guys,
my Question ist about how to build a dwarven realm. Sure, i could build it on my own, and with a lot of free decisions, but i wanted to know if there are some books which include information about the size of dwarven cities, like in the dungeon masters book. or, how big a clan ist, and what member a clan contains. Something like a scale where i just need to roll a dice.
what about a city map. are there specific districts, every dwarven city has? is it a 2d city, oder 3d, with differnt levels of living, divided into faith, politics, craft an so on.
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WalkerNinja
Senior Scribe
USA
577 Posts |
Posted - 07 Dec 2006 : 22:14:53
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| Though it pains me to say it, you can get a lot more useful information on dwarves in general from Dragonlance products. They have novels and whole trilogies dedicated to dwarves and dwarven protagonists. Their dwarf source book was pretty top notch too. Aside from that, check the 2E Dwarves handbook and Races of Stone. Also, you'll want to get Delzounblood in on this as I believe that he's compiling a book o ye stout ones. |
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dwarvenranger
Senior Scribe
USA
428 Posts |
Posted - 07 Dec 2006 : 22:21:00
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| Also check out Dwarves Deep. |
If I waited till I knew what I was doing, I'd never get anything done.
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
1720 Posts |
Posted - 08 Dec 2006 : 08:44:01
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Most definitly check out Dwarves Deep. The best dwarven source around IMO and on top one of those great best FR sources from 2nd. Ed. covering much lore. As well, you might want to take a look into Races of Faerun, where all major and minor dwarven races are listed. Further you might get some good ideas of how a stronghold is set up by looking into the details given about the major dwarven clans of the north, covered in Silver Marches.
That is what I can think of fromthe top of my head. |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 09 Dec 2006 : 02:36:08
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| Lost Empires of Faerun also mentions several fallen dwarven realms, so you could get an idea of where the dwarves you are detailing come from, since that is definately an important thing to know with dwarves. |
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hammer of Moradin
Senior Scribe
USA
758 Posts |
Posted - 11 Dec 2006 : 05:38:04
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Still nothing to help those wanting more dwarven information from the wizards who dwell on the coast. Just one map, somewhere!
Maps, maps, and more maps. And not no stinkin' miniatures maps, either. |
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LucianBarasu
Fellaren-Krae Co-ordinator
USA
214 Posts |
Posted - 11 Dec 2006 : 08:12:05
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Originally posted by dwarvenranger
Also check out Dwarves Deep.
Anyone know if WOTC has put that book up for download?
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Fellaren Krae Project Co-Ordinator
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Besshalar
Learned Scribe
Finland
166 Posts |
Posted - 11 Dec 2006 : 09:08:53
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Nope they haven't ... But I'm pretty sure you can get the pdf from paizo .... The link will probably turn up pretty soon .... :)
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
1720 Posts |
Posted - 11 Dec 2006 : 09:27:53
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Originally posted by Besshalar
Nope they haven't ... But I'm pretty sure you can get the pdf from paizo .... The link will probably turn up pretty soon .... :)
I would help out gladly - but that is Wolly's job, really! Wolly, get started!  |
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LucianBarasu
Fellaren-Krae Co-ordinator
USA
214 Posts |
Posted - 11 Dec 2006 : 09:46:42
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| So then, is like all 2nd edition stuff like, legal to PDF and share? cause i'd figure that'd be a no no? |
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Halidan
Senior Scribe
USA
470 Posts |
Posted - 11 Dec 2006 : 15:10:54
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WotC has authorized several on-line retailers to sell pdf's of previous edition D&D products. These are all products that WotC decided not to distribute for free on their own web site.
You buy them and own them - just like the original paper products. However, you do not have the legal rights to re-sell or redistribute those pdf's. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 11 Dec 2006 : 16:15:34
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Originally posted by Ergdusch
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Originally posted by Besshalar
Nope they haven't ... But I'm pretty sure you can get the pdf from paizo .... The link will probably turn up pretty soon .... :)
I would help out gladly - but that is Wolly's job, really! Wolly, get started!
Sorry, that's not on my list of useful links. I just keep the link for the Wizards downloads page handy.  |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 11 Dec 2006 : 16:36:09
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Ergdusch
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Originally posted by Besshalar
Nope they haven't ... But I'm pretty sure you can get the pdf from paizo .... The link will probably turn up pretty soon .... :)
I would help out gladly - but that is Wolly's job, really! Wolly, get started!
Sorry, that's not on my list of useful links. I just keep the link for the Wizards downloads page handy.
Rpgnow.com or paizo's web site. Do a search for paizo for the link to last one. :) |
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LucianBarasu
Fellaren-Krae Co-ordinator
USA
214 Posts |
Posted - 11 Dec 2006 : 17:18:59
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| SO then my scanning of all 450 of my printed 2nd ed books,modules, and errata are fine, cause I own them? |
Lucian "The Bringer" Barasu
Fellaren Krae Project Co-Ordinator
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 11 Dec 2006 : 17:29:46
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Originally posted by lucianb
SO then my scanning of all 450 of my printed 2nd ed books,modules, and errata are fine, cause I own them?
As long as you don't distribute or sell them to anyone. That means you can't distribute or sell them to anyone via the net, CD's you might burn, etc.
Note: I'm not a lawyer and I don't know the laws of the countries outside of the USA. |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 11 Dec 2006 : 23:47:51
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Originally posted by Kuje
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Originally posted by lucianb
SO then my scanning of all 450 of my printed 2nd ed books,modules, and errata are fine, cause I own them?
As long as you don't distribute or sell them to anyone. That means you can't distribute or sell them to anyone via the net, CD's you might burn, etc.
Note: I'm not a lawyer and I don't know the laws of the countries outside of the USA.
Lucianb, I would suggest that you may wish to check with the copyright laws of the US before you attempt something like this.
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Faraer
Great Reader
3308 Posts |
Posted - 12 Dec 2006 : 00:12:09
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LucianBarasu
Fellaren-Krae Co-ordinator
USA
214 Posts |
Posted - 12 Dec 2006 : 00:38:30
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good plan. Thanks. I wasn't planning on trading or distributing them, But with the above post saying:
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*snip*"the pdf from paizo .... The link will probably turn up pretty soon .... :)"
I missunderstood. Don't wory. I am not planning on trading or distributing them. I did it for myself cause a 5 pound laptop is lighter than 60+ hardbacks and modules when going to a D&D session
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Ah Ha! I found the page you all linked me to. So these:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/downloads
are free and able to be shared, correct?
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Fararer:
It would also take weeks and leave you with less useful electronic copies than the searchable ESDs
What is an ESD?
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Lucian "The Bringer" Barasu
Fellaren Krae Project Co-Ordinator
"Why do you cry?"
"He is Conan, Cimmerian. He won't cry... So I cry for him."
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 12 Dec 2006 : 01:35:44
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Originally posted by lucianb
Ah Ha! I found the page you all linked me to. So these:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/downloads
are free and able to be shared, correct?
Not shared by you. Only by WotC, and those they specifically give the rights to share them. You can, however, pass on or post the link a thousand times, as I have done. |
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LucianBarasu
Fellaren-Krae Co-ordinator
USA
214 Posts |
Posted - 12 Dec 2006 : 02:57:48
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Understood. that's what i meant. If a player asks me for say MAZTICA ( first one on list on that page) i can push the link, just not burn it and ive it to them. got it.
Thank guys.
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Lucian "The Bringer" Barasu
Fellaren Krae Project Co-Ordinator
"Why do you cry?"
"He is Conan, Cimmerian. He won't cry... So I cry for him."
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Faraer
Great Reader
3308 Posts |
Posted - 12 Dec 2006 : 15:35:54
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| These PDFs of TSR products are called ESDs -- electronic software downloads. |
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
Master of Realmslore
1338 Posts |
Posted - 14 Dec 2006 : 19:05:07
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Originally posted by hammer of Moradin
Still nothing to help those wanting more dwarven information from the wizards who dwell on the coast. Just one map, somewhere!
Maps, maps, and more maps. And not no stinkin' miniatures maps, either.
If one wants to look for 'used items' in second hand stores, Ebay etc. there was a Dragonlance boxed set on Dwarves of Krynn which included maps and other details on dwarves. Granted several items are certainly not Realms specific, but there are loads of ideas in there that apply to dwarves in general... |
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Delzounblood
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
578 Posts |
Posted - 15 Dec 2006 : 12:01:23
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Vetrinus
If you are looking for info on dwarves I have a couple of books that may help you!
Check my Delzounblood's Bookshop Scroll in General FR Chat!
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