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Swordcoast Wanderer
Acolyte

Canada
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Posted - 11 Dec 2006 :  18:20:27  Show Profile  Visit Swordcoast Wanderer's Homepage Send Swordcoast Wanderer a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Does anyone have any advice for how to make a duel between mid-level mages interesting? Like really interesting?

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WalkerNinja
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Posted - 11 Dec 2006 :  18:33:03  Show Profile Send WalkerNinja a Private Message  Reply with Quote
party hats and kazoos. They make everything more interesting.

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Swordcoast Wanderer
Acolyte

Canada
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Posted - 11 Dec 2006 :  18:35:53  Show Profile  Visit Swordcoast Wanderer's Homepage Send Swordcoast Wanderer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by WalkerNinja

party hats and kazoos. They make everything more interesting.




I hate you, no just kidding do you have any serious suggestions?

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WalkerNinja
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USA
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Posted - 11 Dec 2006 :  19:33:50  Show Profile Send WalkerNinja a Private Message  Reply with Quote
high stakes make things interesting. There's nothing like playing black-jack $500,000 a hand.

bad odds can make things harrowing.

special restrictions (i.e. no invocations) make things intersting.

... and party hats and kazoos

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LucianBarasu
Fellaren-Krae Co-ordinator

USA
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Posted - 11 Dec 2006 :  19:58:58  Show Profile  Visit LucianBarasu's Homepage Send LucianBarasu a Private Message  Reply with Quote
well one nasty way would have them duel and one of the wizards was in a magic-dead area, the other was just outside of it lol.


Other ways to make it interesting:
-Adverse weather from the culmination of two mighty wizards tossing the weave at each other (penalties to cast, or make them roll to hit rolls to see their target lol)
-have a group of people/monsters/annoyances throwing objects into the duel, (squid, rats, weapons etc. to randomly hit the mages and throw off casting.
- make the ground unstable, ref checks before and after each spell. if fail- they fall
- make them both blind, or blinded by enviornment..then the dice of the DM takes a RANDOM turn of events to see if they hit..lol beware by standers.
- make a list of mid level creatures each wizard knows of or has encountered, then, do like the disney movie sword and the Stone. Have each only use polymorph and use the creature's abilities..(greatest wizard duel EVER)


just some of the things i've done to my dueling wizards.

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Swordcoast Wanderer
Acolyte

Canada
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Posted - 11 Dec 2006 :  20:23:50  Show Profile  Visit Swordcoast Wanderer's Homepage Send Swordcoast Wanderer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Lucianb I like your idea about having a dead magic zone involved, that could be very interesting.

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Faraer
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Posted - 11 Dec 2006 :  20:30:28  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
An interesting emotional relationship between them, and meaningful purposes/causes that they're fighting for. Good description of spell effects. Players/DM with good understanding of the characters' spells and how to use them and counter others'. Proper use of wards, mantles, and magical items.
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dwarvenranger
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USA
428 Posts

Posted - 12 Dec 2006 :  01:27:53  Show Profile  Visit dwarvenranger's Homepage Send dwarvenranger a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Both of them in a wild magic area. That should be interesting to watch, and I don't even like wizards.

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Marquant Volker
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Greece
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Posted - 14 Dec 2006 :  12:59:24  Show Profile Send Marquant Volker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
-perhaps no wizzard can use any offensive spell the fight is being between summoned creatures
-perhaps a high lvl exotic arena (ice cave? air bubble in the sea? a mountainpeak?) can be created via illusion (or teleport?)create arena events (stalagmites and stalactites be destroyed, critters attack or run for cover)
-the duel will be always bitter if there is a prize...
-perhaps the Evil one may use the crowd (toss a "missed" fireball at them) because he is sure the Good one will get confused to his advantage?

If everything else fails try party hats and kazoos...:-)
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Faraer
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Posted - 14 Dec 2006 :  15:21:07  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Some of these suggestions sound like gimmick matches in pro wrestling.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 14 Dec 2006 :  15:48:53  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faraer

Some of these suggestions sound like gimmick matches in pro wrestling.



This Sunday, Elminster and Szass Tam in a cage match! Plus, The Simbul and Storm in a tag team match against Alustriel and Qilué!

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Uzzy
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 14 Dec 2006 :  18:41:25  Show Profile  Visit Uzzy's Homepage Send Uzzy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That Tag Team match sounds interesting..

But yeah, its simple enough. Give the duel some meaning outside the actual contest. If you have a mage as an enemy to the party, have him challenge the parties mage to a duel in public. Winner gets some plot important item.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 14 Dec 2006 :  19:05:06  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Uzzy

That Tag Team match sounds interesting..


Yeah, but I think it'd be more of a draw if it was mud wrestling!

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Sian
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Denmark
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Posted - 14 Dec 2006 :  19:27:44  Show Profile  Visit Sian's Homepage Send Sian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Larloch and Zalathorm is referees

what happened to the queen? she's much more hysterical than usual
She's a women, it happens once a month
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Marquant Volker
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Greece
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Posted - 15 Dec 2006 :  16:04:19  Show Profile Send Marquant Volker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And Elminster is the collector for the bets!

Edited by - Marquant Volker on 15 Dec 2006 16:04:42
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Kajehase
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Sweden
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Posted - 15 Dec 2006 :  16:53:32  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ah, but Elminster have been banned from all professional matches since his bout with Raistlin Majere.

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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 15 Dec 2006 :  17:03:05  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase

Ah, but Elminster have been banned from all professional matches since his bout with Raistlin Majere.



It was never conclusively proven that Elminster had anything to do with the unexpected appearance of the Volkswagen.

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Aglaranna
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Posted - 16 Dec 2006 :  01:26:33  Show Profile  Visit Aglaranna's Homepage Send Aglaranna a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Eh...Oh...Heh, that was my fault. I think I took a wrong turn on Main Street...

"You can choose a ready guide
In some celestial voice
If you choose not to decide
You still have made a choice

You can choose from phantom fears
And kindness that can kill
I will choose the path that's clear
I will choose freewill." -'Freewill' by Rush

Edited by - Aglaranna on 16 Dec 2006 01:29:50
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