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Blueblade
Senior Scribe
USA
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 Posted - 30 Aug 2007 : 03:51:39
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Hi again, Ed and Lovely Lady THO,
I bumped into quite another sort of Realms fan in another store today (hairy, bearded guy with "tough guy" tattoos), and am posting this lore question for him:
If someone ends up "on the run" from the law in Amn, and flees to Waterdeep, or Cormyr, or Sembia, do any of those places have "agreements" with Amn that mean the running person is automatically "in trouble with the law" and subject to immediate arrest from local lawkeepers, the moment they get news from Amn (and how soon and how ungarbled and/or detailed would that "news" be?)?
I talked to his guy for a little while, and we're both well aware that bounty hunters or others from Amn could of course follow the running person and try to take revenge or capture him - - but if the running person hasn't offended against rulers back in Amn, would "the law" in any of those three places give an official hoot about the runner's alleged crimes committed in Amn?
Thanks,
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 30 Aug 2007 : 14:57:40
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I'm thinking, from campaign play with Ed as DM, that they wouldn't, but will of course whisk this query off to Ed for his definitive answer.
In the meantime, I have a question for all scribes: what region of the Realms is the least well-detailed, right now, but most needs better detailing?
Obviously every gamer may arrive at a different answer to this, due to the location and style of play in their campaign, but I'm hoping to provide Ed with a fairly clear picture of the "most gaping holes" in the published Realms.
Sometimes it's hard for both Ed and we his players to see these holes, because of OUR campaign locations and style of play.
Thanks, and love to all,
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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1273 Posts |
Posted - 30 Aug 2007 : 15:17:01
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
In the meantime, I have a question for all scribes: what region of the Realms is the least well-detailed, right now, but most needs better detailing?
Lantan comes to mind (least well-detailed), but Sembia could be a better choice (needs better detailing).
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
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Posted - 30 Aug 2007 : 15:34:33
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Well, the Vast, the Dragon Coast and Western Heartlands could use some information on the regions in general, there are information on several cities, but much of this dates back to Forgotten Realms Adventures book. In addition the dynamics of the regions as a whole does get lost a little bit when only individual settlements are covered. The Volo guides are great, but work best in combination with other books that takes a larger view. As these regions are located strategically in the middle of more covered regions it would be interesting to see how the relationship with these states and areas work to get a whole picture. The same goes for the Vilhon, even if it has had some coverage.
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 30 Aug 2007 : 17:03:03
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I'd still like a Moonshae update since most of the major Moonshae material was 1e or early 2e.
An update to Evermeet would be good since a lot has changed there since the 2e sourcebook.
My major pick though would be the Nel Isles. I know there's a little lore in one of the Volo's Guides but I'd like more. :)
Others, I know, for years now, have been clammering for updates on the other continents like Maztica/Zakhara/Kara-tur. I can't count the number of people who have asked, on many message boards, for updates on those three continents. |
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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 30 Aug 2007 : 17:28:01
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Originally posted by Jorkens
Well, the Vast, the Dragon Coast and Western Heartlands could use some information on the regions in general, there are information on several cities, but much of this dates back to Forgotten Realms Adventures book. In addition the dynamics of the regions as a whole does get lost a little bit when only individual settlements are covered. ...
As these regions are located strategically in the middle of more covered regions it would be interesting to see how the relationship with these states and areas work to get a whole picture. The same goes for the Vilhon, even if it has had some coverage.
Yeah, that's a good answer.
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Xysma
Master of Realmslore
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 30 Aug 2007 : 17:49:01
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
In the meantime, I have a question for all scribes: what region of the Realms is the least well-detailed, right now, but most needs better detailing?
I think what I said last time would still be my choice. I'd have to dig that reply out of the archives though. 
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Sian
Senior Scribe
Denmark
596 Posts |
Posted - 30 Aug 2007 : 17:49:20
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lot of the areas in the southen part really ... Lantan, Haluaa, Golden Waters ... might even say east/southeasten part of Sea of the stars, not to mention futher than Faerūn
the question wasn't which area we would rather see updated ... but which area that have been updated the least |
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 30 Aug 2007 : 17:54:15
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
I'm thinking, from campaign play with Ed as DM, that they wouldn't, but will of course whisk this query off to Ed for his definitive answer.
In the meantime, I have a question for all scribes: what region of the Realms is the least well-detailed, right now, but most needs better detailing?
Obviously every gamer may arrive at a different answer to this, due to the location and style of play in their campaign, but I'm hoping to provide Ed with a fairly clear picture of the "most gaping holes" in the published Realms.
Sometimes it's hard for both Ed and we his players to see these holes, because of OUR campaign locations and style of play.
Thanks, and love to all,
THO
The Unapprocheable East, IMO: Thesk, the Great Dale and Rashemen, more than the others... |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 30 Aug 2007 : 18:12:45
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
In the meantime, I have a question for all scribes: what region of the Realms is the least well-detailed, right now, but most needs better detailing?
Well, I will say that I think sometimes lack of detail can be a good thing. However, I will say I wouldn't mind seeing more information on places like Chult, Tashalar, the Shaar, the Plains of Purple Dust, the Lake of Steam region, the Ride (near Moonsea) and all the little "in-between" places that have been neglected over the years. |
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
1618 Posts |
Posted - 30 Aug 2007 : 18:58:38
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| the South eastern regions of Fearun could use some more attention. I know the shining south covers some of this, but more lore and detail would be great |
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Acolyte
Germany
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Posted - 30 Aug 2007 : 21:26:16
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| My choice is the Western Heartlands, even though a few parts of it got some attention. |
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1796 Posts |
Posted - 30 Aug 2007 : 21:48:20
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createvmind
Senior Scribe
490 Posts |
Posted - 30 Aug 2007 : 22:02:27
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The question asked by the lady is which region is the LEAST well-detailed so perhaps we should just answer that question and hope the lore provided is useful to all.
Lantan seems to fit the question asked without it being a remote region and thus probably useful in many of our personal campaigns. |
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Neriandal Freit
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 30 Aug 2007 : 22:37:02
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Come on, tons of igglies and googlies live there, and a vampire! Not many of those in Realms...
Edit: Plus, information pertaining to this area (besides from a novel point of view that I know we have coming out by end year) would be excellent considering there is a certain Compendium Article that will be coming out soon that involves this area, and would love to see more information about it for players who choose to use this...article...that is coming out :D
I think even you would enjoy THO, highly unique...or so I'm told. |
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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1273 Posts |
Posted - 31 Aug 2007 : 03:20:37
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THO, does this question concerns the Realms in 1375 or in 1475* ? 
* For those who don't know, Google "orc king spoiler" |
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Penknight
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 31 Aug 2007 : 03:40:18
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| Wow. I really have to say that that is a tough question, Lady THO. I have a hard time (at present) keeping up with all of the new novels and sourcebooks that come out. If you mean overall, including 1st and 2nd Edition lore, I'd have to say the Moonshaes and the Greycloak Hills/Evereska also. But I wouldn't mind seeing a bit more on Evermeet if someone wanted to have a seat by the fireside and allow me to buy them a tankard of the House Best. |
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 31 Aug 2007 : 04:10:59
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Originally posted by Skeptic
THO, does this question concerns the Realms in 1375 or in 1475* ?
* For those who don't know, Google "orc king spoiler"
Wow Skeptic... I really hope this "Future of the Realms", as presented by this spoiler review of Orc King, is just some hoax.
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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 31 Aug 2007 : 04:16:47
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Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight
no, just darn plain terrified.
Like I said in another thread, if they are going this way, we'll end up with new Realms* that can be fun to play with, but no more the Realms we have known and loved.
*Some years ago I ran a "Future realms" campaign where the majority of the gods have died because the humans quit them. It was a kind of post-apocalyptic setting (the Moonsea was completly poisoned due to Talona's death, etc.) and it was quite fun for a short campaign, but it was not the Realms. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 31 Aug 2007 : 04:23:00
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Originally posted by Skeptic
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Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight
no, just darn plain terrified.
Like I said in another thread, if they are going this way, we'll end up with new Realms* that can be fun to play with, but no more the Realms we have known and loved.
*Some years ago I ran a "Future realms" campaign where the majority of the gods have died because the humans forgot quit them. It was a kind of post-apocalyptic setting (the Moonsea was completly poisoned due to Talona's death, etc.) and it was quite fun for a short campaign, but it was not the Realms.
It won't be a Realms I want anything to do with. If these changes are truth, then it's been fun but I'll wash my hands of all my projects here on Keep and walk away from all FR sites.
Sorry if that sounds harsh but I'm exhausted with the seven years worth of changes that I've not enjoyed and which is turning the Realms into a setting that I don't want to DM in, play in, or even care to keep track of. |
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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1273 Posts |
Posted - 31 Aug 2007 : 04:25:15
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Originally posted by Kuje
Sorry if that sounds harsh but I'm exhausted with the seven years worth of changes that I've not enjoyed and which is turning the Realms into a setting that I don't want to DM in, play in, or even care to keep track of.
You know that WoTC won't go in your basement to prevent you to play (under any D&D edition or any other RPG) at any point of the FR timeline, no ?  |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 31 Aug 2007 : 04:32:23
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Originally posted by Skeptic
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Originally posted by Kuje
Sorry if that sounds harsh but I'm exhausted with the seven years worth of changes that I've not enjoyed and which is turning the Realms into a setting that I don't want to DM in, play in, or even care to keep track of.
You know that WoTC won't go in your basement to prevent you to play (under any D&D edition or any other RPG) at any point of the FR timeline, no ?
You forget that some of us also work on fan material that we prefer to base on canon. Sigh. And on the same token, many DM's also prefer to DM using canon FR. So, that line you said above is a bit misplaced.
However, this debate doesn't belong in Ed's scroll and I'm done with it. |
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Edited by - Kuje on 31 Aug 2007 04:37:14 |
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Xysma
Master of Realmslore
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 31 Aug 2007 : 05:03:07
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Originally posted by Kuje
However, this debate doesn't belong in Ed's scroll and I'm done with it.
I agree.
In fact, let me just underline this particular point, and re-direct all future discussion of this issue, to this scroll.
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Malcolm
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 31 Aug 2007 : 14:14:46
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Kuje, if the WotC-published Realms does jump more then ten years ahead in time, won't that HELP you and everyone else who wants to play or write fanfic or adventures without RSEs crashing through them? The eye of the storm passes, leaving you room to play in the calm left behind? I'm sure we can still prevail on Ed to answer lore queries and fill in the gaps in The Missing Years, or whatever they turn out to be (remember, we don't yet know if the whole Realms is making the jump, or just RAS's novels, or just all Realms novels).
However, I really arrived here not to talk about this time-shift thing, but to ask Ed and THO a question about Lantan: how much of an effect do you see Lantanna "tech" devices having on daily life in the Sword Coast? Are they going to stay small-scale (self-closing hinges, self-refilling oil lanterns) or get bigger (mechanical threshers, fast and precise large-scale saws, etc.)?
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 31 Aug 2007 : 14:47:17
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Originally posted by Blueblade
Specifically the sort of "fuzzy frontier" along the seacoast where Cormyr and Sembia meet. How do both realms police or patrol this border? Obvious military presence (checkpoints? border tolls?) or covert (War Wizard on the Cormyrean side) surveillance? Or ...?
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Kajehase
Great Reader
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Posted - 31 Aug 2007 : 15:29:32
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
In the meantime, I have a question for all scribes: what region of the Realms is the least well-detailed, right now, but most needs better detailing?
THO
The areas I'd feel are in most need of an update would be (in no specific order): The Moonshae Isles, the Dragon Coast, and Murghom/Semphar. |
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Verghityax
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 31 Aug 2007 : 15:57:15
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| As many others, I vote for Lantan. And besides that, Sembia, Murghom and the Bloodstone Lands should get more attention. |
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Ayunken-vanzan
Senior Scribe
Germany
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Posted - 31 Aug 2007 : 17:26:15
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| Lantan is really worth of a more detailed description of land and history, so I vote for Lantan, too. |
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