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WalkerNinja
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 Posted - 27 Jan 2007 : 15:57:01
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Any discussion referring to A Realmslore Poll part 2 ought to occurr here.  Go!
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Edited by - WalkerNinja on 29 Jan 2007 00:41:18
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ShadezofDis
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Posted - 27 Jan 2007 : 18:41:11
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Well, since I'm pretty much completely selfish I'll throw an idea out there :)
Gildenglade
Gildenglade is a facinating city within the country of Turmish. A city where Dwarves, Elves, Half Elves and Humans coexist contentally and through this cooperation have become (or at least it stands to reason they've become) one of the richest cities in the Vilhon Reach, if not Faerun at large (I'm makin this up a bit but it really does stand to reason, unless there has been some sort of drain upon their economy). Gildenglade has perhaps the best relationship with the Emerald Enclave, a group of militant minded druids and druidic allies whom protect the wilderness of the Reach at large.
However, in recent years the people of Gildenglade decided to hire a wizard to try and silence a volcano that they feared would erupt (what? I just don't get that twist of news, unless it's not really that the elders of Gildenglade hired a wizard to silence the volcano but in reality it was a (take your pick from any mage group in the realms) wizard whom controlled the elders of Gildenglade and then got wacked by the Emerald Enclave. . . in fact, that's going to be what happens in my realms *g*). This wizard researched the problem and when he was ready to cast the spell he thought would silence the volcano agents of the Emerald Enclave threw him into the volcano and destroyed all his notes about stopping volcanic eruptions.
So the questions are as follows;
How is it that Dwarves, Elves, Half Elves and Humans work together in Gildenglade so well?
How is it that the elders of Gildenglade, who have the best relationship with the Emerald Enclave in Turmish (if not in the Reach), decided to hire a wizard to stop a volcano? (since they'd know the EE wouldn't like that one bit)
How intergrated is Gildenglade in the republic of Turmish?
Anyhow, that's all I've got for the moment, I'll clean it up more later and see what else I can come up with (unless Ed has already done some work on this, in which case I'll look it up when the mods tell me where it's located, cause they're awesome like that *g*) |
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WalkerNinja
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 28 Jan 2007 : 14:32:05
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Seems great!
I just wonder if this question is a mite too specific
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Originally posted by ShadezofDis
How is it that the elders of Gildenglade, who have the best relationship with the Emerald Enclave in Turmish (if not in the Reach), decided to hire a wizard to stop a volcano? (since they'd know the EE wouldn't like that one bit)
On the other hand this matter seems to be the inspiration for this topic, so I can see why you would keep it too. |
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
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Posted - 29 Jan 2007 : 08:34:01
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Just wanted to let you know that I lovethe idea. great thinking there. Keep it up. I am am curious like a piksy how this project turns out.......
Ergdusch
Of course I will lent my support to the project or even post a topic once I have thought of something worthy! Until than - the mines of Tethyamar are great!!! |
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WalkerNinja
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 29 Jan 2007 : 13:33:22
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Thanks for the vote of confidence, Erg.
Dargoth,
Your suggested topic is excellent! Had I not used my vote to get things going, I might have spent it to confirm yours. Bravo! |
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WalkerNinja
Senior Scribe
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577 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jan 2007 : 16:03:06
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A couple of people have PM'd me with the thought that "I can't really think of a topic, everything seems so well detailed in the Forgotten Realms." To that end, I'm going to post here in the discussion thread some topic that I had considered prior to nominating Mines of Tethymar...
A Harper Cell
An examination of a Harper network in Arabel. How large is the cell, and how do the members of that cell function together? What are their areas of particular concern? If an Arabellan PC wanted to join the Harpers in Arabel, how might they be integrated with existing personnel and what missions might they be sent on?
Caravans
Caravan guarding seemed to be quite popular in 1E, but less so now. Give an example caravan, where they might be travelling, what they might be carrying, what level of protection they would be interested in hiring and why (who might be threatening the Caravan).
Dalelands Campaign Update
The final chapters of the Final Gate span many years in a scant few pages. Given an Zhentarim invasion of Shadowdale in tandem with a successful conquest of Hillsfar, a Sembian invasion of Mistledale, Battledale and Featherdale, an Elven Invasion of Myth Drannor to counter a Fey Ri invasion of Myth Drannor, how do the Dalelands look at the end of the current year? What influence does the Crusader Kingdom of Myth Drannor hold, and how are they interacting with their neighbors?
The Future of Phlan
Phlan was once a city on par with its Moonsea neighbors, but was savaged by a draco-rage. What impediments exist for its reconstruction/re-birth, and what economic factors lead to it being a major city in the first place? |
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Edited by - WalkerNinja on 31 Jan 2007 16:03:27 |
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WalkerNinja
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 31 Jan 2007 : 16:20:41
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Master's and Apprentices
Moreso than any other class, the Wizard presupposes the influence of a Master either in a school setting or the more traditional Master/Apprentice arrangement. DM's, thus are left with the work of creating this ambiguous teacher. Can we have a weekly article giving info on a wizard from a different region or city that is inclined to train wizards, what their interests are, what their prefered spells are, and how notable they are (i.e. if my PC says, "I was taught by so-and-so" does that mean anything to anyone but me?). |
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WalkerNinja
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 31 Jan 2007 : 16:26:50
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Dear Mr. Greenwood
If you had to write a module for WotC, where would it be and what would it be about? What themes would you incorporate? In short, what's the most exciting part of the Forgotten Realms, to you. |
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Edited by - WalkerNinja on 31 Jan 2007 21:54:56 |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 31 Jan 2007 : 18:06:56
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quote:
Originally posted by WalkerNinja
Master's and Apprentices
Moreso than any other class, the Wizard presupposes the influence of a Master either in a school setting or the more traditional Master/Apprentice arrangement. DM's, thus are left with the work of creating this ambiguous teacher. Can we have a weekly article giving info on a wizard from a different region or city that is inclined to train wizards, what their interests are, what their prefered spells are, and how notable they are (i.e. if my PC says, "I was taught by so-and-so" does that mean anything to anyone but me?).
I really like this one.  |
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WalkerNinja
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 31 Jan 2007 : 20:55:08
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| Feel free to nominate it. It was actually my personal runner up to Tethymar, so I'll be happy to see it nominated. Further, I forgot to add in the description that this article would be ideal for periodically introducing specially crafted spells. Hopefully these would be more utilitarian and less combative so as to display a mastery of Art not violence. |
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Edited by - WalkerNinja on 31 Jan 2007 21:00:34 |
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WalkerNinja
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 31 Jan 2007 : 22:05:26
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A couple of more, and then the rest is up to you guys...
Baron of the Stonelands
On the surface this has always looked like a lucrative (if dangerous) plot hook. However in the Cormyr novels the Stonelands have been described as looking more or less like some of the nicer parts of Arizona. Why would people want to go there, and why would Cormyr be interested in it?
Deadsnows
This portion of The Silver Marches really intrigued me, can we have some more information on the House Icespear? Specifically, how long ago did they come to rule this remote township? Are there any legends associated with their family that could be used as adventures? What could Deadsnows do to join the Luruar?
Daggerford
As well loved by some as the Shadowdale, Daggerford has suffered a dearth in print of late. Write a series of articles bringing Daggerford up-to-date, complete with adventure hooks.
Regional Magic
Of late, much has been said of stylistic differences in magic paralleling various regions, but little of much practical use. What spells are common to what regions? How do wizards of various regions differ in practice? Clearly such a distinction has been attempted via PrC's (Nar Demonbinder, Rauthmar Battlemage, Red Wizard, etc...) and with Feats (see Races of Faerun). Is there a simpler way that this could be handled? |
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Uzzy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
618 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jan 2007 : 22:34:10
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About Dargoth's Faiths of Faerún suggestion. While I completely agree that something is needed dealing with the churches and religions in the FR, I feel it's too large a subject to be dealt with in Realmslore Articles, and should be left to a proper sourcebook so that other designers can actively engage in the creating of such (although, to be fair, WOTC haven't exactly made one yet) I just feel there are better suggestions for something that would fit the scope of a Realmslore article.
As for your other suggestions, WalkerNinja, the Harper Cell one would greatly interest me. Day to day details of activities, how they communicate, dead drops. All that would be fascinating to see. |
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WalkerNinja
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 31 Jan 2007 : 22:47:18
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| I actually see Dargoth's idea as perfectly fitted to a continuing web-column. Mainly because WotC has seemed resistant to publishing church related lore in books and we have absolutely no hint that they might in the future (particularly with the Realms becoming "Module-Land" in '07). |
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Uzzy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 31 Jan 2007 : 23:07:51
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| I could see it working in a web-column too. Just a really, really long one. There are over one hundred gods in the Forgotten Realms, and even taking just the 'Major Deities' from Faiths and Pantheons, thirty. Which would take several years to complete. I feel it's a rather large subject and should truly be left up to a sourcebook, so that the other designers could take part in it as well. Believe me though, I would love beyond anything to see a Faiths of Faerún done. I feel it's vital. Maybe with the recent publication of Faiths of Eberron, WOTC may be moved to release one. My view, however, is that other, smaller subjects should be dealt with in Realmslore Articles. :) |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 01 Feb 2007 : 01:38:50
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quote:
Originally posted by Uzzy
I could see it working in a web-column too. Just a really, really long one. There are over one hundred gods in the Forgotten Realms, and even taking just the 'Major Deities' from Faiths and Pantheons, thirty. Which would take several years to complete. I feel it's a rather large subject and should truly be left up to a sourcebook, so that the other designers could take part in it as well. Believe me though, I would love beyond anything to see a Faiths of Faerún done. I feel it's vital. Maybe with the recent publication of Faiths of Eberron, WOTC may be moved to release one. My view, however, is that other, smaller subjects should be dealt with in Realmslore Articles. :)
I agree... Heck, they never even did more than a couple dozen rooms in the Undermountain series. I'd rather not see them start something grand and then let it dwindle like that. |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
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Posted - 01 Feb 2007 : 07:08:55
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I must admit that an article on regional magic sounds intriguing to me.
It would also be interesting to have an update on Turmish, the Polyhedron articles are not easily available anymore. The old Vilhon Reach book has some information, but there is much still unanswered. More settlements, regional details and the happenings in the land. |
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WalkerNinja
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 01 Feb 2007 : 12:56:13
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| Turmish sounds great! Feel free to nominate it. |
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Reefy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 Feb 2007 : 21:33:01
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quote:
Originally posted by WalkerNinja
Dalelands Campaign Update
The final chapters of the Final Gate span many years in a scant few pages. Given an Zhentarim invasion of Shadowdale in tandem with a successful conquest of Hillsfar, a Sembian invasion of Mistledale, Battledale and Featherdale, an Elven Invasion of Myth Drannor to counter a Fey Ri invasion of Myth Drannor, how do the Dalelands look at the end of the current year? What influence does the Crusader Kingdom of Myth Drannor hold, and how are they interacting with their neighbors?
I'd definitely like to see this, but I don't think it's something Ed is likely to write about. However, I was going to suggest a piece about what happened in the Dales on Shieldmeet 1372, or the Dales Councils of 1373 or 1374. I think Ed would be great at doing this, because I think the mechanics of politics is one of his strong suits, and I'd certainly love to get a better understanding of how things work in the Dales. Something not unlike the section on the Silver Marches' council, from the sourcebook of the same name would be great. Anyone else have anything to say on this? I'll nominate it in the other thread if it seems popular... |
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WalkerNinja
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 04 Feb 2007 : 22:44:01
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quote:
Originally posted by Uzzy
I could see it working in a web-column too. Just a really, really long one. There are over one hundred gods in the Forgotten Realms, and even taking just the 'Major Deities' from Faiths and Pantheons, thirty. Which would take several years to complete. I feel it's a rather large subject and should truly be left up to a sourcebook, so that the other designers could take part in it as well. Believe me though, I would love beyond anything to see a Faiths of Faer�n done. I feel it's vital. Maybe with the recent publication of Faiths of Eberron, WOTC may be moved to release one. My view, however, is that other, smaller subjects should be dealt with in Realmslore Articles. :)
Hey, I'd rather read one fluffy submission per week (or month) on the faiths of Faerûn, than buy another crunchy tome (and there WOULD be crunch in a tome like this) with about 100 religions stuffed into 160 pages. I feel that internet is a prefect medium for content like this, since there is no page count or limit to each article.
I think that religion and faith - written about in even greater detail than in F&P and F&A - is definitely a great subject for the Realmslore articles. |
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Uzzy
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Posted - 05 Feb 2007 : 00:03:33
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| Perhaps my concern was misunderstood. A monthly webcolumn focusing on each Faith of Faerún would take years to even go through half of them. I would rather have one book full of information, and leave the Realmslore columns to smaller things. |
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 06 Feb 2007 : 00:24:39
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quote:
Originally posted by Uzzy
Perhaps my concern was misunderstood. A monthly webcolumn focusing on each Faith of Faerún would take years to even go through half of them. I would rather have one book full of information, and leave the Realmslore columns to smaller things.
I understand that concern, too, but I was a bit disappointed with F&P (since most of its fluffy contents had already been published in F&A...) and I fear that WoTC would be tempted to update the same content to 3.5 edition - especially the crunchy bits. That is why I was hoping that Ed would publish a series of "new fluffy content only"-articles. I am not willing to buy another crunchy or "updated-from-3e" tome on this subject.
So that is why I'd rather have a single article in a month or even two... but that's just my opinion.
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 06 Feb 2007 : 08:39:23
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quote:
Originally posted by Uzzy
About Dargoth's Faiths of Faerún suggestion. While I completely agree that something is needed dealing with the churches and religions in the FR, I feel it's too large a subject to be dealt with in Realmslore Articles, and should be left to a proper sourcebook so that other designers can actively engage in the creating of such (although, to be fair, WOTC haven't exactly made one yet) I just feel there are better suggestions for something that would fit the scope of a Realmslore article.
As for your other suggestions, WalkerNinja, the Harper Cell one would greatly interest me. Day to day details of activities, how they communicate, dead drops. All that would be fascinating to see.
The thing is your never going to see what Im asking for in a printed source book
Faiths of faerun would probably be 5 pages for each deity and there are around 120 deities which would make it a 600 page source book and while Id love to see a 600 page Faiths of Faerun source book its unfortunatley never going to happan 
For those saying that the roll out of deities is to slow, remember wizards are working on products 18 months from now, so assuming that Wizards take up my idea and decide to do a 600 page source the earliest your going to see it is 18 months from now (Mid 2008)
Now assuming Ed loves my idea and decides to do it straight away that would mean you'd have 18 Gods done with 5 page write ups by Mid 2008..... |
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A Realmslore Poll part 2a: Discussion
