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Sian
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Denmark
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Posted - 04 Feb 2007 :  15:26:18  Show Profile  Visit Sian's Homepage Send Sian a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
anyone other than me getting a laugh out of the critical threat aticle in the latest number of Dungeon?

it's about Bargle ... the main villian in 1e 'players manual' single campaign :P

what happened to the queen? she's much more hysterical than usual
She's a women, it happens once a month

Edited by - Sian on 04 Feb 2007 15:28:20

Mace Hammerhand
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Germany
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Posted - 04 Feb 2007 :  21:58:57  Show Profile  Visit Mace Hammerhand's Homepage Send Mace Hammerhand a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bargle...damn...it has been a long time...

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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore

Finland
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Posted - 04 Feb 2007 :  22:33:40  Show Profile  Visit Asgetrion's Homepage Send Asgetrion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand

Bargle...damn...it has been a long time...



Hey, don't forget that he was also the most infamous mage of AD&D Mystara... we tangled with him and his villanous plots many, many times

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Mace Hammerhand
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Germany
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Posted - 05 Feb 2007 :  13:24:35  Show Profile  Visit Mace Hammerhand's Homepage Send Mace Hammerhand a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Never played on Mystara. I had a paladin in the Known World...and Mystara came later...

And, damn, I miss the GAZ-series, some of the BEST supplements ever.

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Markustay
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Posted - 05 Feb 2007 :  17:49:15  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand

And, damn, I miss the GAZ-series, some of the BEST supplements ever.
Truer worlds are rarely spoken.

What I wouldn't give to see some Poor Richards Almanac type books for FR.

I don't remember Bargle though, just looked through my 1e Players Handbook and there not even an adventure, so you must be referring to ODD. Must see if I can find that old blue book around here somewhere...

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone

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Kentinal
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Posted - 05 Feb 2007 :  18:01:52  Show Profile Send Kentinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mystara was converted to AD&D in the later years when BD&D was getting less support (read none).

"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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Tyr
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Posted - 05 Feb 2007 :  18:19:00  Show Profile  Visit Tyr's Homepage Send Tyr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is that the adventure where he shoots someone with a magic missile and then leaves?
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Asgetrion
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Finland
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Posted - 06 Feb 2007 :  00:14:39  Show Profile  Visit Asgetrion's Homepage Send Asgetrion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tyr

Is that the adventure where he shoots someone with a magic missile and then leaves?



I remember him yelling at a sniveling goblin...

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Jorkens
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Norway
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Oh, fond Bargle memories. I still haven't completely forgiven him for the death of Aleena.

I agree with Mace when it comes to the GAZ-series, this was the best format for D&D products in my opinion. Its incredible what they managed to cram into these books. I would also like to emphasise Fabians illustrations, to bad he was so little used in Realms products.
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Mace Hammerhand
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Posted - 06 Feb 2007 :  12:07:50  Show Profile  Visit Mace Hammerhand's Homepage Send Mace Hammerhand a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The GAZ is the prime example of how any Regional Sourcebook should be made, clear and distinct separation of player and DM material in two booklets. I wish folks at Wizards would see that, although with Shattered Gates of Slaughtergarde it seems they finally got it right. Let's hope that this module is a beginning for a new format and will be used more in the future.

If the trilogy of upcoming adventures follows the Shattered Gates example they will be incredible!

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Asgetrion
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Finland
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Posted - 06 Feb 2007 :  23:48:29  Show Profile  Visit Asgetrion's Homepage Send Asgetrion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jorkens

Oh, fond Bargle memories. I still haven't completely forgiven him for the death of Aleena.

I agree with Mace when it comes to the GAZ-series, this was the best format for D&D products in my opinion. Its incredible what they managed to cram into these books. I would also like to emphasise Fabians illustrations, to bad he was so little used in Realms products.



Oh, poor Aleena... she was a pretty decent cleric, wasn't she?

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Jorkens
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Posted - 07 Feb 2007 :  07:49:44  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Asgetrion

quote:
Originally posted by Jorkens

Oh, fond Bargle memories. I still haven't completely forgiven him for the death of Aleena.

I agree with Mace when it comes to the GAZ-series, this was the best format for D&D products in my opinion. Its incredible what they managed to cram into these books. I would also like to emphasise Fabians illustrations, to bad he was so little used in Realms products.





Oh, poor Aleena... she was a pretty decent cleric, wasn't she?



Well no, but she was hot. Bless you Larry Elmore. And she was the first NPC you interacted with when you were trying to get a handle on the game. As Bargle was your first named enemy. Did they not bring Aleena back under another name, her twin sister or something?
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Asgetrion
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Posted - 08 Feb 2007 :  22:37:36  Show Profile  Visit Asgetrion's Homepage Send Asgetrion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jorkens

quote:
Originally posted by Asgetrion

quote:
Originally posted by Jorkens

Oh, fond Bargle memories. I still haven't completely forgiven him for the death of Aleena.

I agree with Mace when it comes to the GAZ-series, this was the best format for D&D products in my opinion. Its incredible what they managed to cram into these books. I would also like to emphasise Fabians illustrations, to bad he was so little used in Realms products.





Oh, poor Aleena... she was a pretty decent cleric, wasn't she?



Well no, but she was hot. Bless you Larry Elmore. And she was the first NPC you interacted with when you were trying to get a handle on the game. As Bargle was your first named enemy. Did they not bring Aleena back under another name, her twin sister or something?



Hmmm... I don't recall any other references or links to her? Then again, we haven't played in Mystara for years... and I don't have any original D&D modules, so I don't know if she appeared in one of them or not?

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Jorkens
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Norway
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Posted - 09 Feb 2007 :  07:27:24  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I found it, just a case of scatterbrains on my part. The Aleena Halaran of the Order of the Griffon found in Threshold is the same Aleena, now a 12th level cleric. This is in the Karameikos gazetteer (man, I love that book), the entries on both her and Bargle has information on what to do (change names) if they've been killed in the introduction adventure.
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