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jordanz
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 Posted - 01 Aug 2009 : 05:35:03
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Both living and unliving?
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Eldacar
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Posted - 01 Aug 2009 : 06:36:06
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Just a couple of the more notable ones (divinities obviously discounted):
- Elminster is more than a thousand years old.
- Ioulaum is probably the oldest of the Netherese liches.
- Larloch is still kicking around in the Warlock's Crypt.
- Khelben Arunsun was around 900-1000 or so, I think. Actually kind of small pickings when compared to most of the really old inhabitants of Faerun.
- The Terraseer is from before Netheril.
- Halaster Blackcloak ("Hilather") is IIRC one of the last living Imaskari (as in, surviving from that time, not descended from them). He's several thousands of years old, and AFAIK is probably one of the oldest, if not the oldest living being (liches being unliving).
- Most dragons, assuming they reach the "Great Wyrm" stage, will be more than 1200 years old, if not more. Draconomicon lists the ultimate age possible for a gold dragon as 4400 years, though I don't know if any FR dragons have reached that point.
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Thauramarth
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Aug 2009 : 06:51:06
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| Araumycos, the gargantuan fungus filling the Underdark beneath the High Forest, has been repeatedly described as being possibly the oldest living organism in Faerûn, predating the empires of the elves. |
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Arion Elenim
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Posted - 01 Aug 2009 : 22:03:34
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| wouldn't Dendar the Night Serpent qualify? |
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Thauramarth
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Aug 2009 : 08:25:40
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Originally posted by Arion Elenim
wouldn't Dendar the Night Serpent qualify?
I would not enter any of the Outsiders or similar; in my view, they might be Realmslore, but not of the "Realms" per se. Otherwise, several demons/devils/gods would probably have to be entered into the list. |
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Ayunken-vanzan
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Posted - 02 Aug 2009 : 11:45:50
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- The Terraseer is from before Netheril.
Quite a bit, it is a member of one of the creator races (but now a lich (or a few of them, respectively) - I haven't my books here at the moment). |
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jordanz
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Posted - 02 Aug 2009 : 20:22:53
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quote:
Originally posted by Eldacar
Just a couple of the more notable ones (divinities obviously discounted):
- Elminster is more than a thousand years old.
- Ioulaum is probably the oldest of the Netherese liches.
- Larloch is still kicking around in the Warlock's Crypt.
- Khelben Arunsun was around 900-1000 or so, I think. Actually kind of small pickings when compared to most of the really old inhabitants of Faerun.
- The Terraseer is from before Netheril.
- Halaster Blackcloak ("Hilather") is IIRC one of the last living Imaskari (as in, surviving from that time, not descended from them). He's several thousands of years old, and AFAIK is probably one of the oldest, if not the oldest living being (liches being unliving).
- Most dragons, assuming they reach the "Great Wyrm" stage, will be more than 1200 years old, if not more. Draconomicon lists the ultimate age possible for a gold dragon as 4400 years, though I don't know if any FR dragons have reached that point.
Hmm Interesting. So exactly who is Afaik and what's his story? I'm suprised there aren't more elves and undead - specifically liches on the list. Cant Elves live 800 years and more? Also what's the benefit of lichdom if so few have even made this list? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 02 Aug 2009 : 21:23:53
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Originally posted by jordanz
So exactly who is Afaik and what's his story?
It's an acronym. As Far As I Know. 
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Originally posted by jordanz
Cant Elves live 800 years and more?
Yup.
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Originally posted by jordanz
Also what's the benefit of lichdom if so few have even made this list?
A couple of things... Mostly the now-limitless amount of time they have. Plus, they don't have to worry about minor details like eating. Keep in mind, though, that most liches are human, and so outlasting the human lifespan isn't a huge accomplishment, compared to other races.
This isn't the most comprehensive list... And specifying "oldest" omits a lot that are really old, but not necessarily old compared to others. |
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Nicolai Withander
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 08 Aug 2009 : 00:54:41
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I would say that the Srinshee is well up there aswell... about 3400 years old. Ioumlaum is about 4600... and the terraseer I dont know anything about... Or the Sojurner/soyurner or what ever the dude's name is/was... The Sarruch liches are as far as I know prety damn old aswell... 5000+ ???
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BEAST
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 08 Aug 2009 : 10:29:51
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Matron Yvonnel Baenre, drow, more than 2000 years old, deceased (Siege of Darkness, P2:C7)
Olimbis "the Old", greatest sage of the dwarves, 600+ years old (Dwarves Deep, p.43: "Dwarven Magic: New Magical Items") |
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Knight of the Gate
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Posted - 08 Aug 2009 : 17:50:40
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Originally posted by Nicolai Withander
I would say that the Srinshee is well up there aswell... about 3400 years old. Ioumlaum is about 4600... and the terraseer I dont know anything about... Or the Sojurner/soyurner or what ever the dude's name is/was... The Sarruch liches are as far as I know prety damn old aswell... 5000+ ???
The Terraseer *is* a Sarrukh Lich (one of the Lich Kings of Oreme). And IMHO, some of the eldest beings on Toril are likely 1)Elder Treants or 2)'Oriental' Dragons in KT or SL (Namely the Dragon that was imprisioned in the Dragonwall). |
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coach
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Posted - 08 Aug 2009 : 23:04:19
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| the linnorn in The Rogue Dragon trilogy was 25000+ years old |
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Gabeth
Acolyte
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Posted - 12 Sep 2009 : 07:45:27
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Personally, I'd like to see a LeShay or two on this list.
Being immortal, it isn't out of the question a few of them chose to remain in the Realms instead of returning to Faerie after involving themselves with the Imaskari and putzing around the Moonshae Isles.
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 13 Sep 2009 : 14:31:31
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Icelander
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Jorkens
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Posted - 17 Sep 2009 : 08:18:36
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Originally posted by Thauramarth
Araumycos, the gargantuan fungus filling the Underdark beneath the High Forest, has been repeatedly described as being possibly the oldest living organism in Faerûn, predating the empires of the elves.
That would be my first choice as well. I don't have my books with me at the moment, but has the background of the creature been detailed? Moander would be a clear suspect, but is there an official explanation? |
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Quale
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Posted - 18 Sep 2009 : 18:43:14
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No, it's a mystery. I imagine Psilofyr before Moander.
With Turlang, there are also the arakhora, the Grandfather Tree is at least 13000 years old.
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Sandro
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Posted - 25 Sep 2009 : 04:57:47
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| Isstosseffifil fell in c. -33,000 DR, making the Terraseer (and the other 59 lich kings) much older than the vast majority of the competition. |
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swifty
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Posted - 27 Sep 2009 : 15:09:46
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| isnt malkazid about 35000 years old. |
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Quale
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Posted - 28 Sep 2009 : 09:44:47
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| at least, he could be old as Corellon |
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Delzounblood
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Posted - 28 Sep 2009 : 10:38:16
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I have found it!
The oldest beings in existence...
The Shadevari
Originaly only 13 of these creatures existed.
Quote - Curse of The shadowmage - Harpers book 11.
" the shadevari are older than the world itself. They are creatures of the dim chaos that existed before the gods forged Toril, in the time before time, before light and dark were seperate entities. Instead of a world as there is now, there existed only a misty realm of shadows, and the shadevari were Lords of that realm. Then came the gods - though from where no one knows - and set the world of toril spinning between the two."
" For eons, the shadevari prowled the face of Toril, wreaking havok and seeking ways to shatter the creation of the gods. Their only desire was to find a way to break the world and meld light and dark into shadowy chaos once more. Finally, the God Azuth, The High One, found a way to banish the shadevari."
So there you go I've been looking for this as I knew of them but could not remember where I had seen them.
So older than the Gods, older than Toril itself.
I belive jordanz your search is over.
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Quale
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Posted - 30 Sep 2009 : 20:55:00
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the leshay, some are from the previous multiverse
also possibly the arcane and some other I'm not sure, the spellweavers, the dreaden ... |
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creyzi4zb12
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Posted - 18 Nov 2009 : 18:14:43
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Some Sarrukh's, are there sarrukh's still living in the Realms? Pil'it'ith would be one of them.
I also would like to point out on the Phaerimm's as the oldest living beings in the Realms...even older than some Ultra-Liches that we know of. |
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Brimstone
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Posted - 18 Nov 2009 : 18:17:08
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I think 4E Killed off the Thornbacks... |
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Asharak
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Posted - 22 Nov 2009 : 16:59:35
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| Hsssthak from Isstosseffifil. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Sandro
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Posted - 29 Nov 2009 : 23:18:44
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| Yeah, they're hundreds of years old, but still young compared even just to Elminster or Khelben, let alone the really old beings (Terraseer, etc.). |
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92dragon5fire
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Posted - 10 Dec 2009 : 21:57:58
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well the Terraseer is a lich so he isn't living. and wasn't there that linnorn in book 3 of the Year of the Rogue Dragon series who was around when the dracorage mithylar was made. are we sure that those sarrukh's that are still living where from the days of Thunder and arn't ancestors of sarrukh's who lived then. and I don't think there where any Phaerimm that are alive now that where alive during the Sundering, the race as a hole most certainly was; but an individual Phaerimm, I don't know of any sources that say that.
is the Araumycos one organism or many? |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 10 Dec 2009 : 23:47:19
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Originally posted by 92dragon5fire
is the Araumycos one organism or many?
So far as I know, it's a single entity -- which doesn't rule out it being some sort of collective organism. |
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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 10 Dec 2009 23:58:42 |
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The Sage
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Posted - 11 Dec 2009 : 00:00:50
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by 92dragon5fire
is the Araumycos one organism or many?
So far as I know, it's a single entity -- which doesn't rule out it being some sort of collective organism.
I'd agree. And, Ed's own words on the subject:-
"Araumycos is alive and sentient, but does not think as we do." |
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Tarloc
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Posted - 03 Dec 2011 : 03:14:17
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| what book or books can i find this terraseer in? he sounds like a fun read. and that linnorn was something else. they were lucky to escape. |
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