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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis

An even simpler answer is this- since the circle of High Mages is casting the ritual, they would remember her name after casting the spell, and thus, she would not be completely destroyed. Her worshippers would not know of her, but anyone who was involved in the ritual, or who had a 'kirra from that time still would. Thus, it would not work. It's a paradox.

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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis

Funny, I thought it already was used to explain a couple! Killing Storms and King Killer star, anybody?

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Originally posted by Kentinal

Everything that has a FR logo is conon under the following rules.

What Ed says here or in the past on the Realms list.
What has been printed.
The latest thing printed that is different then anything "said" or printed in the past however replaces any prior canon. Something that often invokes discussion about retcons (retroactive conversions).

There also still in place I believe is a caveat of that if a source book is released a short time (time not defined) before a novel, that the source book should be used as canon should it conflict canon in the novel.

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Originally posted by HelldoG

So, Brace, you are saying that the novel is wrong or something? I don't get it.

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Originally posted by Lady Fellshot

Well, the way I would interpret it is that it worked in the same way it did against Orcus. If even a handful of Kiaransalee's followers were not on the prime material plane when Q'arylund detonated his federation plot device, then she wasn't destroyed, just given a setback. Given some time and she will probably return again.

But then, I've been operating under the assumption that parts of the Weave survived the spellplague because the major mythals survived. That's what I get for using logic.

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Originally posted by HelldoG

You are saying that what is written im the novel (about the high elven spell that erased Kiaransallee (sp?) from her worshipers minds) is a lie/is wrong/is un-canon, right? Because to me it sound like that. If I'm imaging things, then explain to me what did you mean.

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Wickenman cursed Besheba for his sordid luck. Ruthless Zhentarim sorcerers would be upon him in minutes.
"Oh, fiddle-sticks," the portly Wickenman pouted, alternating between twiddling his thumbs and picking his nose, "What am I too do!", he opined in nasal tone.
Then, out of the corner of his eye he spied salvation. A low stone wall flanked by a tall applewood lie just off the road.
"Fair enough!" grunted in nasal whine. "I'll simply hide behind that wall!"
Wickenman raced to the wall, leaped nearly six inches off the ground, scraped his loose pauch on the stone wall, then struggled to throw a leg over. Minutes passed, but with great exertion Wickenman managed to get a leg over the wall.
"Excelsior!", he whined triumphantly. Heaving with all his strength, Wickenman threw his weight over the wall, lost his balance, then fell the nearly five feet to the other side, landing heavily on a pile of rotten apples.
"Oh! My spleen!", Wickenman opined.
Then, out of nowhere, a roaring current and bright flames filled the sky.
"Oh, no!" Wickenman wailed, "a Zhentarim Fireball!"
As the fireball blasted Wickenman to so much bone fragment and ash, the portly fellow could think of only one thing,
"Did I milk Bessie today?"

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Jerek Durr, cambion prince of 349th layer of the Abyss was not pleased. In fact, he had never been pleased at all. Ever. Jerek Durr was so despicably unsatisfied with immortality he frequently played the most despicable pranks on people. Jerek remembered one such instance, years prior, with complete lack of pleasure.
Once, Jerek had thought it would be funny to kill a man with an apple pie. However, ever time he tried to beat someone to death with a pie, the pie fell apart. And no one ever died. So, Jerek came up with a solution.
One day, when a portly mage was running, (well, shambling and wheezing simultaneously) near a short stone wall and applewood tree on the best Prime world ever, Jerek summoned a monodrone. Monodrones, as everyone know, are completely, perfectly, spherical. Jerek then lit the monodrone on fire, opened a planes spanning gate, punted the flaming monodrone through said gate, then waited for the hijinks to happen.
And did they ever! As a portly mage, one Wickenman by name, lay groaning atop a pile of apples, complaining about organ damage, the roaring monodrone, brilliantly blazing orange flame, flew across the heavens and smashed, burned and obliterated the poor mage, till nothing but ash and bone fragments remained.
At the time, Jerek Durr muttered dourly,
"Heh. Apple-Pi."

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Originally posted by Kentinal

Interesting theory. On the latter I offer another theory. The mythals survived because Elven magic was used in their creation. The Deity of the Weave and the Deity of Elven magic had that same Divine rank so in theory have the same access to powers of magic greater then the Weave, just their granted powers were focused to certain aspects of magic. There have been examples of many Elven magics that is not available to non Elves. One thus could conclude that Elven only create magic could survive the spellplague because the Weave was not used in creation of mythals.

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