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Eldacar
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Posted - 25 Apr 2011 :  05:33:54  Show Profile Send Eldacar a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Has there been anything said about the origin of vampires in FR? As in, where the curse began? Who were the "first" vampires? Are they still around in the "today" of Toril?

Additionally, what about other "supernatural" creatures? Lycanthropes, maybe? Were they the result of magic gone wrong? Created by some deity for its own reasons?

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Dennis
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Posted - 25 Apr 2011 :  08:45:31  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

You might find THIS of help.

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Firestorm
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Posted - 25 Apr 2011 :  15:17:15  Show Profile Send Firestorm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Eldacar

Has there been anything said about the origin of vampires in FR? As in, where the curse began? Who were the "first" vampires? Are they still around in the "today" of Toril?

Additionally, what about other "supernatural" creatures? Lycanthropes, maybe? Were they the result of magic gone wrong? Created by some deity for its own reasons?


I don't think so. But nobody has ever asked who the first lich, Dragon, etc were either.

I think in the realms, they simply exist and no backstory was given.
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Dennis
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Posted - 26 Apr 2011 :  01:57:22  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Firestorm

quote:
Originally posted by Eldacar

Has there been anything said about the origin of vampires in FR? As in, where the curse began? Who were the "first" vampires? Are they still around in the "today" of Toril?

Additionally, what about other "supernatural" creatures? Lycanthropes, maybe? Were they the result of magic gone wrong? Created by some deity for its own reasons?


I don't think so. But nobody has ever asked who the first lich, Dragon, etc were either.




Though some people of certain races "claim" to be the first of their kind.

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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 26 Apr 2011 :  07:04:04  Show Profile Send Lord Karsus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
-Given the fact that there's so many different ways to become a Vampire, I doubt there's any actual "originators", concerning vampiricm. Same thing with lycanthropy.

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Eldacar
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quote:
Originally posted by Dagnirion

-Given the fact that there's so many different ways to become a Vampire, I doubt there's any actual "originators", concerning vampiricm. Same thing with lycanthropy.


Maybe, but I personally doubt it. Even if there are lots of different "originators" to the curse (each producing similar-ish effects in the long run), I would still guess that there had to be a particular time or place when the first person/creature/whatever triggered the change, or the phenomenon first appeared.

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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 30 Apr 2011 :  21:57:00  Show Profile Send Lord Karsus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Eldacar

quote:
Originally posted by Dagnirion

-Given the fact that there's so many different ways to become a Vampire, I doubt there's any actual "originators", concerning vampiricm. Same thing with lycanthropy.


Maybe, but I personally doubt it. Even if there are lots of different "originators" to the curse (each producing similar-ish effects in the long run), I would still guess that there had to be a particular time or place when the first person/creature/whatever triggered the change, or the phenomenon first appeared.



-Well, obviously, yeah. I mean that, there's no one out there as being the "original" vampires, the "original" lycanthropes, and so on. Just some nameless individuals, whose names have been lost to time, and are very unlikely ever to be mentioned directly in any way, shape, or form. Just like the first Lich, the same Zombie, the first Mystraran Clerics, and millions of other firsts.

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Dennis
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Posted - 01 May 2011 :  05:03:21  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

It's actually more fun not know who exactly are the "firsts." Makes you want to write your theories and all that. An exciting avenue for creative writing.

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Brimstone
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When will the Realms Vamps become all sparkly?

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to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Dennis
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Posted - 01 May 2011 :  06:05:27  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

When will the Realms Vamps become all sparkly?



If WotC hires Meyer. And if Meyer is prepared to write in third person omniscient.

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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 01 May 2011 :  06:05:53  Show Profile Send Lord Karsus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


It's actually more fun not know who exactly are the "firsts." Makes you want to write your theories and all that. An exciting avenue for creative writing.



-Eh, I can agree and disagree.

quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

When will the Realms Vamps become all sparkly?



-Radiant Vampires.

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Brimstone
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Posted - 01 May 2011 :  06:06:34  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

When will the Realms Vamps become all sparkly?



If WotC hires Meyer. And if Meyer is prepared to write in third person omniscient.



"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Brimstone
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Posted - 01 May 2011 :  06:08:19  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dagnirion

quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

When will the Realms Vamps become all sparkly?



-Radiant Vampires.


Positive energy leeches! They devour healing surges!

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Dennis
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Posted - 01 May 2011 :  06:29:43  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

quote:
Originally posted by Dagnirion

quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

When will the Realms Vamps become all sparkly?



-Radiant Vampires.


Positive energy leeches! They devour healing surges!



Perhaps a fallen solar who is turned into a vamp and whose "corrupted" magic-like abilities make him glow under the sunlight.

Or a kobold palladin of Tyr.

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Eldacar
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Posted - 01 May 2011 :  07:12:26  Show Profile Send Eldacar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

When will the Realms Vamps become all sparkly?


Now I'm going to have to get that imagery out of my head all over again.

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Brimstone
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Posted - 01 May 2011 :  08:29:39  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Eldacar

quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

When will the Realms Vamps become all sparkly?


Now I'm going to have to get that imagery out of my head all over again.


*TIPSHAT*



"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Dennis
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Posted - 01 May 2011 :  09:08:26  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Why do folks hate sparkly vampires?

There are diamond-like dusts in their skin which you can "harvest." They're more expensive than diamonds and black pearls. You'll get rich, or for those who already are, richer!

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