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Hoondatha
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Posted - 19 Oct 2011 :  18:50:07  Show Profile  Visit Hoondatha's Homepage Send Hoondatha a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Hi all. I've got an open-ended question for everyone that I'm curious to hear peoples' thoughts on.

Scenario: You are in the lore caverns of Oryndoll, the illithid City of Loretakers, whose vaults surpass even those of Candlekeep. You have a helm of telepathy, a perfect knowledge of the illithid filing system, and five minutes to plunder whatever lore you want before you have to make your escape. What lore do you study, which question(s) do you want answered?

This could either be for you, as a player and Realms fan, or from the perspective of one of your characters (or both!). Have fun!

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The quickest path out of there.

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Artemas Entreri
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I would search for Elminster's memoirs to find out if he wears boxers or briefs.

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The Sage
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I'm having a hard time answering this. Oryndoll has twelve thousand years of history behind it. So I think I'm going to need more than five minutes.

Or, failing that, some variant of a SageTime spell.

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Nilus Reynard
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A complete listing of all things the illithids are afraid of. It could come in handy later on in any confrontation with the race, let them know that you know their fears & have no problem sending them to their own personal hell. Learn their taboos & how to use them against them.

If I still had any time left, I would delve into the Illithid religious systems. See if Ilsensine is their only deity & if so, were there ever any others in the past. Perhaps look for some rituals to Ilsensine & put them down on paper later on.

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Seethyr
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Posted - 20 Oct 2011 :  05:14:50  Show Profile  Visit Seethyr's Homepage Send Seethyr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This is such a cool topic, it really leads to some creative thinking.

Personally Id want to know more of the origins of the species itself. The characters I have typically played would have sought out secret caches of illithid treasures. The only epic character i ever played would have tried to find out how Ioulaum turned himself into a elder brain.

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bladeinAmn
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Posted - 20 Oct 2011 :  06:28:53  Show Profile  Visit bladeinAmn's Homepage Send bladeinAmn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
1st off, if my PC & party are there on purpose, they'd have to have almost 2 million xp points each (2e speaking, so all members are at least 15th level in their main class). No point going a place that dangerous unprepared.

2nd, I figure there's no lore, even in the Realms, that is so far-fetched that the only place to find the secret to something would be in Oryndoll. If the person (player character) is destined to learn something, then dreams, visions and direct communion with their deity, or even planar/ethereal servants of the deity, would be a much more efficient way to obtain the lost lore in question. Of course much discipline would be required for it; or insanity, as those less talented folk observing the loreseeker would deem it in their various motives & dispositions.

So if my PC is in Oryndoll....well first off, he'd have made full provision for he & his party to be their nigh fully unseen & undetectable, and certainly immune to the mind blasts of the illithids (greenstone amulets & Chaotic Commands, FTW!).

Note: SPOILER ALERT: If you're interested in, but haven't yet, read Ed Greenwood's "Dark Warrior Rising," then please discontinue reading this post. I truly do not want to spoil one of Ed's finest works for you. End Note.

And once there, he's readying a spell ritual that's been YEARS in preparation. This spell would do two things: (1) is that he'd have found a way to bind the spirits that power up of the most powerful golems in the city (I wrote in another thread how golems are powered in my Realms), thus binding the golems to his command as if they were summoned creatures, and (2) summon GIANT purple worms to do my PC's bidding. from the deeper Underdark.

Stone, Clay, & Iron Golems have high magic resistance, and are taller than even ulitharids, so these I would get to engage the illithids & ulitharids in melee; a golem rampage, if you will.

The giant purple worms are summoned & controlled by the spell ritual to absolutely sack all the illithids, ulitharids, and elder brain within the city; they are to rip up buildings from their foundations, collapsing them (but doing so away from the thrall caverns). They'd also swallow the illithids & ulitharids whole; and when not doing that, they'd be crushing the illithids/ulitharids man-sized bodies under their 25-30' multi-tonned bodies as they slither their way into destroying edifice & mind flayer in their wake - not sparing the elder brain in their rampage either.

My PC wouldn't even be thinking about the lorebooks in Oryndoll, despite having a deep affinity for the books in the library of Candlekeep.

Edited by - bladeinAmn on 20 Oct 2011 06:35:17
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The Sage
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Posted - 20 Oct 2011 :  07:23:31  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Seethyr

Personally Id want to know more of the origins of the species itself.
You could try finding an in-game copy of The Illithiad, the summation of merchant-sage S. Wakeman's research on the illithid race.
quote:
The only epic character i ever played would have tried to find out how Ioulaum turned himself into a elder brain.
Lost Empires of Faerūn tells us that following Ioulaum's conversion to lichdom in the dying days of Netheril [the lifedrain spells of the phaerimm having disrupted his other life-extending magicks] he left Netheril and went off to train a variety of apprentices, including illithids from the city of Ellyn'taal [presumed to be the first illithiliches]. Eventually he used his illithid students to create an undead elder brain and then merged himself with it.

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Ayrik
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I suppose the smart course of action would be to learn how to remain undetected for longer than five minutes. Or, failing that, how to get the hell outta there without becoming brain food.

I'd be after any scrap of lore I could find which relates to the Gith races, of course. Probably quite a lot available.

I second Sage's mention of the Illithiad. Written for 2E but still the definitive source of Mind Flayer lore.

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MalariaMoon
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I'd find out why there's always one odd sock left in the washing basket ...
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quote:
Originally posted by MalariaMoon

I'd find out why there's always one odd sock left in the washing basket ...




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Artemas Entreri
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quote:
Originally posted by MalariaMoon

I'd find out why there's always one odd sock left in the washing basket ...



hungry washing machines...

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Therise
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quote:
Originally posted by entreri3478

quote:
Originally posted by MalariaMoon

I'd find out why there's always one odd sock left in the washing basket ...



hungry washing machines...


Sorry, totally unrelated, but you reminded me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lIR2NKY98c


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sleyvas
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quote:
Originally posted by Hoondatha

Hi all. I've got an open-ended question for everyone that I'm curious to hear peoples' thoughts on.

Scenario: You are in the lore caverns of Oryndoll, the illithid City of Loretakers, whose vaults surpass even those of Candlekeep. You have a helm of telepathy, a perfect knowledge of the illithid filing system, and five minutes to plunder whatever lore you want before you have to make your escape. What lore do you study, which question(s) do you want answered?

This could either be for you, as a player and Realms fan, or from the perspective of one of your characters (or both!). Have fun!



So, you absolutely understand their filing system? Is any of it in video feedback form and is there a section on porn?

Alavairthae, may your skill prevail

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Therise
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quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

quote:
Originally posted by Hoondatha

Hi all. I've got an open-ended question for everyone that I'm curious to hear peoples' thoughts on.

Scenario: You are in the lore caverns of Oryndoll, the illithid City of Loretakers, whose vaults surpass even those of Candlekeep. You have a helm of telepathy, a perfect knowledge of the illithid filing system, and five minutes to plunder whatever lore you want before you have to make your escape. What lore do you study, which question(s) do you want answered?

This could either be for you, as a player and Realms fan, or from the perspective of one of your characters (or both!). Have fun!



So, you absolutely understand their filing system? Is any of it in video feedback form and is there a section on porn?


Book #2734, chapter 17, subsection 12: On the Creative Intimate Utility of Tentacles.


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Hoondatha
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Posted - 20 Oct 2011 :  21:24:05  Show Profile  Visit Hoondatha's Homepage Send Hoondatha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Try the HQ470's. As for the video... uhh... where'd I leave my brain bleach??

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Artemas Entreri
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quote:
Originally posted by Therise

quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

quote:
Originally posted by Hoondatha

Hi all. I've got an open-ended question for everyone that I'm curious to hear peoples' thoughts on.

Scenario: You are in the lore caverns of Oryndoll, the illithid City of Loretakers, whose vaults surpass even those of Candlekeep. You have a helm of telepathy, a perfect knowledge of the illithid filing system, and five minutes to plunder whatever lore you want before you have to make your escape. What lore do you study, which question(s) do you want answered?

This could either be for you, as a player and Realms fan, or from the perspective of one of your characters (or both!). Have fun!



So, you absolutely understand their filing system? Is any of it in video feedback form and is there a section on porn?


Book #2734, chapter 17, subsection 12: On the Creative Intimate Utility of Tentacles.





Thanks Therise, now i have a disturbing image burned into my brain

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Artemas Entreri
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quote:
Originally posted by Therise

quote:
Originally posted by entreri3478

quote:
Originally posted by MalariaMoon

I'd find out why there's always one odd sock left in the washing basket ...



hungry washing machines...


Sorry, totally unrelated, but you reminded me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lIR2NKY98c





That was a funny video....but the "ducks blown off their feet" video below it is funnier

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althen artren
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Creative Intimate Utility of Tentacles? Gee, whole bunch
of anime could teach you that.
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Hoondatha
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Posted - 21 Oct 2011 :  02:57:39  Show Profile  Visit Hoondatha's Homepage Send Hoondatha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Considering just how scary the illithid are already, I really don't want to think too much about that...

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Ayrik
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quote:
Therise

quote:
entreri3478

quote:
MalariaMoon

I'd find out why there's always one odd sock left in the washing basket ...
hungry washing machines...
Sorry, totally unrelated, but you reminded me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lIR2NKY98c
I was thinking more along the lines of this.

[/Ayrik]
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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 21 Oct 2011 :  19:43:55  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ayrik

quote:
Therise

quote:
entreri3478

quote:
MalariaMoon

I'd find out why there's always one odd sock left in the washing basket ...
hungry washing machines...
Sorry, totally unrelated, but you reminded me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lIR2NKY98c
I was thinking more along the lines of this.



Ha ha good stuff!

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Old Man Harpell
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quote:
Originally posted by entreri3478

quote:
Originally posted by Therise

quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

quote:
Originally posted by Hoondatha

Hi all. I've got an open-ended question for everyone that I'm curious to hear peoples' thoughts on.

Scenario: You are in the lore caverns of Oryndoll, the illithid City of Loretakers, whose vaults surpass even those of Candlekeep. You have a helm of telepathy, a perfect knowledge of the illithid filing system, and five minutes to plunder whatever lore you want before you have to make your escape. What lore do you study, which question(s) do you want answered?

This could either be for you, as a player and Realms fan, or from the perspective of one of your characters (or both!). Have fun!



So, you absolutely understand their filing system? Is any of it in video feedback form and is there a section on porn?


Book #2734, chapter 17, subsection 12: On the Creative Intimate Utility of Tentacles.


Thanks Therise, now i have a disturbing image burned into my brain


More importantly, Therise...how did you know the reference number so quickly?
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Artemas Entreri
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quote:
Originally posted by Old Man Harpell

quote:
Originally posted by entreri3478

quote:
Originally posted by Therise

quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

quote:
Originally posted by Hoondatha

Hi all. I've got an open-ended question for everyone that I'm curious to hear peoples' thoughts on.

Scenario: You are in the lore caverns of Oryndoll, the illithid City of Loretakers, whose vaults surpass even those of Candlekeep. You have a helm of telepathy, a perfect knowledge of the illithid filing system, and five minutes to plunder whatever lore you want before you have to make your escape. What lore do you study, which question(s) do you want answered?

This could either be for you, as a player and Realms fan, or from the perspective of one of your characters (or both!). Have fun!



So, you absolutely understand their filing system? Is any of it in video feedback form and is there a section on porn?


Book #2734, chapter 17, subsection 12: On the Creative Intimate Utility of Tentacles.


Thanks Therise, now i have a disturbing image burned into my brain


More importantly, Therise...how did you know the reference number so quickly?



LOL

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Quale
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Magical fundamental lore, sort of 5 minute version of the Nether Scrolls
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Lore on how to create flying cities without using mythallars. [Perhaps by leashing air elementals with unbreakable bindings, or something grander.]

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