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EcThelion
Learned Scribe
Norway
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 Posted - 29 Jan 2004 : 21:26:53
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Yay! Crazy-people-day! Let's all have two personalities!!!
Hello, I am Mr.Green
And I'm Mr.Red. You shure look great today, Mr.Green.
Yes I know, thank you very much. Green is soooo much better than Red, Mr.Red.
Ehm... I said 'great' not 'perfect'
Well, It is clear that you lack the vocabulary to really express you feelings, Mr.Red
Ehm. I think your misunderstanding me, Mr.Green
What nonesnse! It is quite clear that you are misunderstanding *yourself*, Mr.Red
You should start watching your mouth, Mr.Green
Why on earth should I watch *my* mouth, you inbreed?
Inbreed!?
Well, huh. We all know that *red* isn't exactly the colour of *healthy* people, now is it?
And green is?
Very much so!
Well do you know what I think, Mr.Green?
No I do not. What do you think, Mr.Red?
I think that you can go and-
Yo, Yo, Yo! Wazzup, my niggas!?
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I could go on, belive me I could go on, but when I do they tend to end up as bloody novels. Once I wrote a 6-page novel in my Maths-class. I didn't learn ****! 
Erhm... On-topic: Humanz rule! |
Ec'Thelion, formerly known as Forgotten One, now known as Ec'Thelion the Overpowered.
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jan 2004 : 21:37:50
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| Erhm, Correction: N******. I will not tolerate profanity to sully the great halls of Candlekeep. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Cyric
Senior Scribe
Norway
388 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jan 2004 : 21:48:46
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| you are most liley right about that one but i wil stil say that Cyric was best and had bigger church just for praising the black sun. But the 95% i think its more like 55% but still that is a lot. |
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe
Norway
323 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jan 2004 : 22:39:23
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Originally posted by Shadowlord
Erhm, Correction: N******. I will not tolerate profanity to sully the great halls of Candlekeep.
Profanity?
I donno what that means, but if it was directed twoards me; Sorry, I forgott myself. |
Ec'Thelion, formerly known as Forgotten One, now known as Ec'Thelion the Overpowered.
Currently not all that active. I'm preoccupied with Warcraft III for the moment. Bite me :P |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jan 2004 : 00:19:22
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If you're talking about 'niggas' it's not a swear word. It's slang that blacks (oh, excuse me, "African-Americans") treat as a racial slur when anyone but them says it.
I don't like the term "African-Americans." It's not because I'm a racist -- far from it, since I opin that there's no such thing as "race." The reason that I don't like it is because 1) it applies to anyone from the newest immigrant from Africa to people with skin just a bit more "chocolate-y" than "tanned." I object to that because it's racism in and of itself, continuing the artificial seperation that I find so wrong. And 2), because if there are "African-Americans" and "Korean-Americans" and "Chinese-Americans" then am I a "Scottish/Irish/English/French/German-American"? 
So, if there are any "African-Americans" in these halls, here's what I think: I couldn't care less. The only time skin color means anything to me is when someone's got an infectious rash and I need to stay away from him/her. 
Sorry for the rant. I just have strong feelings on this topic . . . |
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Roewyn
Learned Scribe
114 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jan 2004 : 00:39:04
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Now it's a topic about races .
I wonder if there is any issue about being white or black or green
humans in Toril. In other words is there any discrimination of people because of their color?
It s a bit off topic but I really am not sure about that issue.
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jan 2004 : 01:09:50
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| I'm not sure.... It is a good question though. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jan 2004 : 02:55:01
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Originally posted by Roewyn
Now it's a topic about races.
I wonder if there is any issue about being white or black or green
humans in Toril. In other words is there any discrimination of people because of their color?
It s a bit off topic but I really am not sure about that issue.
I think, to a certain extent, most human cultural groups in the Realms, would look differently at other human cultural groups.
Take Waterdeep and Amn for example. In Waterdeep, the barbarian North, and the associated barbarian (human) tribes are thought to start just outside the city's walls. However, in Amn, the barbarian North is everthing north of Amn's most northerly border. So, you could say that in some cases, a number of human groups look 'down', or even differently, at other human cultural groups.
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jan 2004 : 03:19:49
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Hmm, I'm not sure about colors, but Amnish tend to dislike Waterdhavians, which in turn dislikes Tethyrians..... Well, I could go on for hours, but I doubt many fellow scribes have the time/patience for something like that...... |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jan 2004 : 03:38:52
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| Well, I suppose that's true too...... |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Edain Shadowstar
Senior Scribe
USA
455 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jan 2004 : 04:12:07
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Perhaps I should explain a bit. "Mr. Green", as you so eloquently put it, is me, but as Edain Shadowstar the character, where as "Mr. Blue" is me as me. If you ever see "Mr. Red" I suggest you grba a fire extinguisher and take cover, because that means someone did something really silly, like make me mad.
Oh, and about Amn, aren't they being overrun by hordes of monsters and are too weak to repell them? Yeah, I thought so. |
Edain Shadowstar
Archwizard of Rel Astra and Waterdeep
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jan 2004 : 04:22:19
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| Ah, I see. Thank you for clarifying, Edain. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 30 Jan 2004 : 07:17:07
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Originally posted by Edain Shadowstar
Oh, and about Amn, aren't they being overrun by hordes of monsters and are too weak to repell them? Yeah, I thought so.
Indeed. In fact their overall weakness to adequately defend themselves could be a result of their general mindset on other races/species in the Realms. The notion Amnians have about not concerning yourself with outsider culture and attitudes could very well have made them unable to formulate effective strategies to repel these monsters, believeing them to be beneath their concern, until it's too late, and the monsters are at the city's very gate.
There have been minor examples of this happening in Amn's ancient past. I'm too tired to find references now, but they are in there...
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Roewyn
Learned Scribe
114 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jan 2004 : 09:26:27
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So we can understand that there is no race issue among humans.
Some places like Amn people don't like outsiders but I don't think they are looking for some racial features to tell who is Amnian or not. it might be just a national pride or sth like that.
Are there any Aryan claims of any nation or organization representing themselves as a superior race on Toril?
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jan 2004 : 10:33:20
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I would think that, to an extent, most of the high operatives, and leaders in the Black Network assume some form of superiority above the common citzenry in the Realms...One need only look at the internal environment and societal hierarchy in Zhentil Keep for an example of that.
The Red Wizards of Thay would probably be the prime example of an organisation with views of superiority over all other races and realms, especially in 2e Realms. However, with the shift in philosophy that the country has undergone, I believe that only the Zulkirs and a few nobles and wealthly merchants still hold this view.
Also, look to the ruling Mulan class, and their attitudes to the Rashemi race...There is a lot between these two cultures that lends to this theory on Thay as well.
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Cult_Leader
Learned Scribe
USA
337 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jan 2004 : 14:43:30
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| Well, I am much like lina in this subject, But the diffrence is that modt of my half elves" are half drow mixed with humans as well. My second and only played when I deem the party could need the extra "fire power" is the half demon elves. They can be found within one of the FR monster books along with stats on how to use them as PC's. |
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Edain Shadowstar
Senior Scribe
USA
455 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jan 2004 : 18:33:39
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| The concept of humans being more unified in teh Realms is really a flawed one. Humans have far more in the line of inter-race hatred, prejudice, and division. Nations, races, and cultures despise each other in the Realms. Look at Sembia and Cormyr; Zhentil Keep and the Dales; Luskan and the Lords' Alliance; Thay and, well, everybody. If anything humans, while the most populous, are also the most divided and least like to unite. I think the elves are a great example of how saying other races could never unite is wrong. During the Fall of Myth Drannor the Elves of Cormathyr allied with the Drow, their twenty-thousand year old blood enemies. Now, look at humans, while Cormyr was being overrun by the Devil Dragon and Ghauzneths, all their neightbors though of was annexing Comyrean lands in the choas. Really unified. Simply because humans lack sub-races like other kinds, does not make tehm more unified. |
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Archwizard of Rel Astra and Waterdeep
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe
Norway
323 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jan 2004 : 20:38:12
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Hmmmm.... so the humans are screwed?
Hey, we could look at it like this; If they precive evryone as enemies, then everyone becomes enemies, and thus they are (all) surrounded by enemies. I think the hmuans aer doing a pretty good job! 
(Yeah it was a futile attempt, I know) |
Ec'Thelion, formerly known as Forgotten One, now known as Ec'Thelion the Overpowered.
Currently not all that active. I'm preoccupied with Warcraft III for the moment. Bite me :P |
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Ezindir the dark
Senior Scribe
Norway
603 Posts |
Posted - 01 Feb 2004 : 10:56:54
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Okey, now that we have mostly agreed that the elves are the coolest race, I will upgrade this topic: This topic is now for discusion about wich SUBrace that is the coolest and/or best.
I would say Avariels becouse of their wings.
And the Seaelves, becosue they are freaking living under water. |
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Cyric
Senior Scribe
Norway
388 Posts |
Posted - 01 Feb 2004 : 11:30:48
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| onley elf lovers have done so i say this is what makes them strong and humans do unite when the time of war is open them it is just that no one likes Cormyr. |
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe
Norway
323 Posts |
Posted - 01 Feb 2004 : 15:05:26
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Half-Dragons, 'cuz they are the deadlyest (Humanoid) thing EVER!
Human Half-Dragons, ofcourse. They are the most powerful ones. Atleast they were back in 2e...  |
Ec'Thelion, formerly known as Forgotten One, now known as Ec'Thelion the Overpowered.
Currently not all that active. I'm preoccupied with Warcraft III for the moment. Bite me :P |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 01 Feb 2004 : 15:35:56
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| Every already knows my response, so I won't even deign to answer that question...... |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe
Norway
323 Posts |
Posted - 01 Feb 2004 : 15:41:19
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Half-Dragons pwn drow giry-men any day!  |
Ec'Thelion, formerly known as Forgotten One, now known as Ec'Thelion the Overpowered.
Currently not all that active. I'm preoccupied with Warcraft III for the moment. Bite me :P |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 01 Feb 2004 : 15:48:26
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CLEAN UP YOUR POST BEFORE ALAUNDO SEES THAT!
In the future, refrain from using profanity, it galls me. (at least in the forums) |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe
Norway
323 Posts |
Posted - 01 Feb 2004 : 15:54:29
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Well. So much for the Chaotic Evil Drow
Personalyl I've never understood why peopel get offended by curse word, then again I'm cathegorized as "Intelectually challenged" 'cuz I use them, so it is probably beyond me.
And I was referring to cats, not whatever-it-was-that-you-were-thinking-of. |
Ec'Thelion, formerly known as Forgotten One, now known as Ec'Thelion the Overpowered.
Currently not all that active. I'm preoccupied with Warcraft III for the moment. Bite me :P |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 01 Feb 2004 : 15:58:46
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| Actually, It just seems vulgar. Shadowlord gracefully sweeps behind Ec'Thelion, and places his blade accross his neck. You have gall, lich. I am evil, but for now my objectives are best served by making those around me think I am less of a threat. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe
Norway
323 Posts |
Posted - 01 Feb 2004 : 16:08:57
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Hmf. Vulgar it may be. Very well, point taken. I shall frain from it in the future.
And... : : Ec'Thelion is suddently standing right behind the Drow, to the right of him, to the left of him, and other images of him is surrounding the drow : : please remove that blade? Not that it would matter, though. It's not the real me. I'm not even really in this room, but that is none of your buisness, goo... err... evil Drow. |
Ec'Thelion, formerly known as Forgotten One, now known as Ec'Thelion the Overpowered.
Currently not all that active. I'm preoccupied with Warcraft III for the moment. Bite me :P |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 01 Feb 2004 : 16:28:38
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With pleasure, but just so you know, I have a permanent true sight spell active, due to the equipment I wear. I knew you weren't in here the whole time.
(If you would like to read more about some of the equipment my character wears, please divert your attention to The Sage's Magic Shop, page 33, located in the Running the Realms folder.) |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Ezindir the dark
Senior Scribe
Norway
603 Posts |
Posted - 01 Feb 2004 : 18:23:25
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I think this is rude, you are talking about a curse word that none of us have even seen. Tell us the word or stop talking about it please.
And I dont really see how Dragons and Humans can mate?
Seems pretty disgusting. But dragons can take human form, cant they?
I guess this is the explanation. |
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Coolest and best race!!
