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scererar
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 15 Nov 2009 : 23:41:36
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Just finished up Downshadow. Very good job Erik.
Taking a break from realms for a bit. I have heard been listening to many scribes here talk good things about the A Song of Ice and Fire series by George Martin, so I picked them up today. |
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Sandro
Learned Scribe
New Zealand
266 Posts |
Posted - 16 Nov 2009 : 04:55:59
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
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Originally posted by Alisttair
Come on. Anything with Bhaal in it is great 
Are you saying Bhaal is in City of the Dead? If so I will buy it forthwith!
Nay, I believe that part of his post was still part of the previous discussion about the Moonshae trilogy, which most definitely involves Bhaal and is most definitely great. |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
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Posted - 16 Nov 2009 : 11:46:43
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Originally posted by Sandro
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
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Originally posted by Alisttair
Come on. Anything with Bhaal in it is great
Are you saying Bhaal is in City of the Dead? If so I will buy it forthwith!
Nay, I believe that part of his post was still part of the previous discussion about the Moonshae trilogy, which most definitely involves Bhaal and is most definitely great.
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J D Dunsany
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 Nov 2009 : 14:55:43
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Originally posted by The Sage
Okay, we seem to be heading into discussion-territory that has little to do with the scroll's topic. Let's get back on track, eh? 
While I understand the point you're making, Sage, can I suggest that we 'rebrand' this thread the 'relaxed non-spoiler chat about the Realms books you've read' thread? I kind of like the fact that you can make a throwaway reference to a Realms novel (any novel!), get challenged about it by someone else and then have an extended conversation about it. There isn't really anywhere else on these boards where you can do that.
Just my half a crown's worth...
JDD
PS: And Bhaal is in the Moonshae trilogy - and what an appearance he makes. Scheming evil, subtle and corrupting. Yum. (And then terribly unsubtle at times, too. The guy has it all.)
PPS: Bhaal aka 'Sauron'? 
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J D Dunsany
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
180 Posts |
Posted - 16 Nov 2009 : 15:00:52
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Originally posted by MrsDrasek
I am so behind most here, although I have every book here at my disposal I have not come close to reading 1/3 of them.
I am in no way reading in any particular order, however I like to stick with the same people in the same books for a time.
I loved the Sembia Series and the Cale trilogy's. Right now I am just finishing Pauls Shadowstorm and will start Shadowrealm tonight.
For the record, I loved the Sembia series too, although I've yet to read any of PSK's Cale stuff. (I know, I know, but, dammit, I've got so many books!)
Any favourites in the Sembia series, MrsDrasek? Black Wolf would probably be mine, but Shattered Mask and Sands of the Soul are right up there with it, imho. |
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J D Dunsany
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 Nov 2009 : 15:04:55
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
Re-read the part about the sister knights, how beautiful their home is visually and audibly, the whole blinfolded to pass through etc, etc. Very Tolkien-ish.
You're right. Although I'd forgotten about that bit, actually. The odd thing about the Moonshae series is, now that I'm reading lots of people talk about it, I really want to read it again, but, when I read it the first time, I distinctly remember being unimpressed by it - particularly in comparison to some of the later FR series (I was reading Elaine's 'Counsellors and Kings' and 'The Threat From the Sea' at the time). But, that may have been a reaction to how detached from the rest of Faerun the Moonshae series seemed at the time. It really is in its own little world, as I remember...
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 16 Nov 2009 : 16:04:34
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Originally posted by J D Dunsany
While I understand the point you're making, Sage, can I suggest that we 'rebrand' this thread the 'relaxed non-spoiler chat about the Realms books you've read' thread? I kind of like the fact that you can make a throwaway reference to a Realms novel (any novel!), get challenged about it by someone else and then have an extended conversation about it. There isn't really anywhere else on these boards where you can do that.
Just my half a crown's worth...
That's actually not a bad idea. I'll talk it over with the other Mods and see what type of consensus we reach. |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
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Posted - 16 Nov 2009 : 20:06:25
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by J D Dunsany
While I understand the point you're making, Sage, can I suggest that we 'rebrand' this thread the 'relaxed non-spoiler chat about the Realms books you've read' thread? I kind of like the fact that you can make a throwaway reference to a Realms novel (any novel!), get challenged about it by someone else and then have an extended conversation about it. There isn't really anywhere else on these boards where you can do that.
Just my half a crown's worth...
That's actually not a bad idea. I'll talk it over with the other Mods and see what type of consensus we reach.
Sounds like a great idea to me! |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
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Posted - 16 Nov 2009 : 20:08:45
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by J D Dunsany
While I understand the point you're making, Sage, can I suggest that we 'rebrand' this thread the 'relaxed non-spoiler chat about the Realms books you've read' thread? I kind of like the fact that you can make a throwaway reference to a Realms novel (any novel!), get challenged about it by someone else and then have an extended conversation about it. There isn't really anywhere else on these boards where you can do that.
Just my half a crown's worth...
That's actually not a bad idea. I'll talk it over with the other Mods and see what type of consensus we reach.
This sounds like a great idea to me. |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
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Posted - 16 Nov 2009 : 20:16:29
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Originally posted by J D Dunsany
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
Re-read the part about the sister knights, how beautiful their home is visually and audibly, the whole blinfolded to pass through etc, etc. Very Tolkien-ish.
You're right. Although I'd forgotten about that bit, actually. The odd thing about the Moonshae series is, now that I'm reading lots of people talk about it, I really want to read it again, but, when I read it the first time, I distinctly remember being unimpressed by it - particularly in comparison to some of the later FR series (I was reading Elaine's 'Counsellors and Kings' and 'The Threat From the Sea' at the time). But, that may have been a reaction to how detached from the rest of Faerun the Moonshae series seemed at the time. It really is in its own little world, as I remember...
JDD
I think that's one of the important elements of each persons envisioning of the Realms, the order of ones reading. I read the Moonshaes very early and they match the Realms as I use them in play (the rpg part of the Realms is the important one to me)and that is my main reason for liking them. Counsellors and Kings I read much later and with firmly established ideas about the South which crashed with those of the books, the result was that I didn't much care for the series. It just wasnt the Realms as I envisioned them. |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 16 Nov 2009 : 20:21:25
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Originally posted by scererar
Just finished up Downshadow. Very good job Erik.
Taking a break from realms for a bit. I have heard been listening to many scribes here talk good things about the A Song of Ice and Fire series by George Martin, so I picked them up today.
Thank you sir! And I hope you enjoy GRRM's series. It's one of my favorites.
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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MrsDrasek
Acolyte
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Posted - 16 Nov 2009 : 23:16:49
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Originally posted by J D Dunsany
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Originally posted by MrsDrasek
I am so behind most here, although I have every book here at my disposal I have not come close to reading 1/3 of them.
I am in no way reading in any particular order, however I like to stick with the same people in the same books for a time.
I loved the Sembia Series and the Cale trilogy's. Right now I am just finishing Pauls Shadowstorm and will start Shadowrealm tonight.
For the record, I loved the Sembia series too, although I've yet to read any of PSK's Cale stuff. (I know, I know, but, dammit, I've got so many books!)
Any favourites in the Sembia series, MrsDrasek? Black Wolf would probably be mine, but Shattered Mask and Sands of the Soul are right up there with it, imho.
**gasp** I highly recommend Paul's work, once I started I couldn't put them down from Shadow's Witness all the way up til now. Because I love the characters so (and don't laugh) Shadow's Witness is what led me back to the Sembia series just to keep getting a glimpse of Cale or to learn more about he family he served. I enjoy when books have small tie ins to each other in some small way.
As for favorites I would have to agree Black Wolf and Sands of the Soul were among the favorites. I know what you mean about having so many books. |
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J D Dunsany
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Nov 2009 : 06:54:13
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Originally posted by MrsDrasek
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Originally posted by J D Dunsany
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Originally posted by MrsDrasek
I loved the Sembia Series and the Cale trilogy's. Right now I am just finishing Pauls Shadowstorm and will start Shadowrealm tonight.
Any favourites in the Sembia series, MrsDrasek? Black Wolf would probably be mine, but Shattered Mask and Sands of the Soul are right up there with it, imho.
**gasp** I highly recommend Paul's work, once I started I couldn't put them down from Shadow's Witness all the way up til now. Because I love the characters so (and don't laugh) Shadow's Witness is what led me back to the Sembia series just to keep getting a glimpse of Cale or to learn more about he family he served. I enjoy when books have small tie ins to each other in some small way.
As for favorites I would have to agree Black Wolf and Sands of the Soul were among the favorites. I know what you mean about having so many books.
Yes, I know what you mean. The whole series had a slight soap-opera feel to it with characters flitting in and out of each others' books. I quite enjoyed that. And miss it, too, tbh. I can't think of many series off-hand that have that approach.
Still reading 'Annihilation', btw. And I'm shocked that SPOILER has happened. I was rather hoping that particular character would stick around. Damn...
JDD |
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Sandro
Learned Scribe
New Zealand
266 Posts |
Posted - 17 Nov 2009 : 07:44:05
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| Just finished reading Elminster's Daughter. It's definitely a great read, but am I the only one that feels it doesn't quite fit in the Elminster series? Seems rather more like a Cormyr novel to me (having not read any of the Cormyr saga [despite owning 2/3 books], I can't say exactly what they're like). Definitely a lot less El in this one than any of the others, at any rate. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 17 Nov 2009 : 15:32:05
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Originally posted by Sandro
Just finished reading Elminster's Daughter. It's definitely a great read, but am I the only one that feels it doesn't quite fit in the Elminster series? Seems rather more like a Cormyr novel to me (having not read any of the Cormyr saga [despite owning 2/3 books], I can't say exactly what they're like). Definitely a lot less El in this one than any of the others, at any rate.
Elminster's Daughter was the only one of the Elminster books that I really enjoyed. The others simply didn't grab me... But as I've said before, I'm a bit of an oddity on this site, in that I'm not a big fan of Ed's fiction. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 17 Nov 2009 : 15:38:47
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Originally posted by Sandro
Just finished reading Elminster's Daughter. It's definitely a great read, but am I the only one that feels it doesn't quite fit in the Elminster series? Seems rather more like a Cormyr novel to me (having not read any of the Cormyr saga [despite owning 2/3 books], I can't say exactly what they're like). Definitely a lot less El in this one than any of the others, at any rate.
Ed actually discussed a little about the reasons for this, in his replies around the time of the hardback release of Elminster's Daughter. It might be worth a search through the "So Saith Ed" archives.
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 17 Nov 2009 : 16:00:10
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Elminster's Daughter was the only one of the Elminster books that I really enjoyed. The others simply didn't grab me... But as I've said before, I'm a bit of an oddity on this site, in that I'm not a big fan of Ed's fiction.
That makes two of us Wooly....except in my case, Ed's novels that I enjoyed were the Shadow of the Avatar trilogy, Elminster: Making of a Mage and most of Elminster in Myth Drannor. I have yet to read (but I do own) the Knights of Myth Drannor trilogy, and all the others were hard for me to read.
Of course like you we may not be his biggest fans as far as the fiction is concerned, but the rich detail and world creation, game supplements and all the other stuff of his is second to none in my books! |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 17 Nov 2009 : 16:41:05
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Originally posted by Alisttair
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Elminster's Daughter was the only one of the Elminster books that I really enjoyed. The others simply didn't grab me... But as I've said before, I'm a bit of an oddity on this site, in that I'm not a big fan of Ed's fiction.
That makes two of us Wooly....except in my case, Ed's novels that I enjoyed were the Shadow of the Avatar trilogy, Elminster: Making of a Mage and most of Elminster in Myth Drannor. I have yet to read (but I do own) the Knights of Myth Drannor trilogy, and all the others were hard for me to read.
Of course like you we may not be his biggest fans as far as the fiction is concerned, but the rich detail and world creation, game supplements and all the other stuff of his is second to none in my books!
Oh, that's a given! When it comes to output, level of detail, and utter realism, I am simply in awe of Ed.  |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 17 Nov 2009 : 19:41:12
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
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Originally posted by scererar
Just finished up Downshadow. Very good job Erik.
Taking a break from realms for a bit. I have heard been listening to many scribes here talk good things about the A Song of Ice and Fire series by George Martin, so I picked them up today.
Thank you sir! And I hope you enjoy GRRM's series. It's one of my favorites.
Cheers
Just read On GRRM's not a Blog that, Yesterday he was in Morroco and they were wrapping up shooting on the Pilot for the possible HBO series A Game of Thrones......
Thats reason enough to get reading it! |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
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Posted - 17 Nov 2009 : 19:45:55
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Originally posted by Alisttair
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Elminster's Daughter was the only one of the Elminster books that I really enjoyed. The others simply didn't grab me... But as I've said before, I'm a bit of an oddity on this site, in that I'm not a big fan of Ed's fiction.
That makes two of us Wooly....except in my case, Ed's novels that I enjoyed were the Shadow of the Avatar trilogy, Elminster: Making of a Mage and most of Elminster in Myth Drannor. I have yet to read (but I do own) the Knights of Myth Drannor trilogy, and all the others were hard for me to read.
Of course like you we may not be his biggest fans as far as the fiction is concerned, but the rich detail and world creation, game supplements and all the other stuff of his is second to none in my books!
Funnily enough the Shadows of the Avatar trilogy is the one series by Ed that I don't enjoy. I cant really explain why, but it just didn't appeal to me. Its been a few years, but the books might have had to long fight scenes for my taste.
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Sandro
Learned Scribe
New Zealand
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Posted - 18 Nov 2009 : 03:21:13
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Aye, I've found Ed rather hit and miss myself -- I've liked Elminster: Making of a Mage, Elminster in Myth Drannor, and Elminster's Daughter, though all I've read is the Elminster series and Spellfire. Still, they're all nice and full of funs Realmslore, so no complaints.
On a similar note, I picked up Hand of Fire today, completing Shandril's Saga in my collection. Once I manage to find Shadow of the Avatar and Death of the Dragon (both of which may be hard, done here in New Zealand), I'll have all of Ed's Realms series. |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
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Posted - 18 Nov 2009 : 12:21:54
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Originally posted by Sandro
Aye, I've found Ed rather hit and miss myself -- I've liked Elminster: Making of a Mage, Elminster in Myth Drannor, and Elminster's Daughter, though all I've read is the Elminster series and Spellfire. Still, they're all nice and full of funs Realmslore, so no complaints.
On a similar note, I picked up Hand of Fire today, completing Shandril's Saga in my collection. Once I manage to find Shadow of the Avatar and Death of the Dragon (both of which may be hard, done here in New Zealand), I'll have all of Ed's Realms series.
I forgot about the Cormyr novels lol. I very much enjoyed those ones. |
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swifty
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Nov 2009 : 22:10:30
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| i loved shadows of doom but didnt care for books 2 and 3.i find eds books very hit and miss.currently reading son of thunder.loving all the zhentarim stuff. |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 24 Nov 2009 : 15:00:44
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| All right. Finished Azure Bonds yesterday and now I have started reading The Wyvern's Spur at work and reading the 1E/2E adventure Curse of the Azure bonds at home. |
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Sandro
Learned Scribe
New Zealand
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Posted - 28 Nov 2009 : 09:17:05
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I ordered The Ghost King as well as the Shadow War trilogy a few days ago -- The Ghost King came in today, the other should come sometime next week.
Now, the big question is whether I read The Ghost King right after I finish Swords of Eveningstar, or if I wait to read it until I've finished the Knights trilogy.
Decisions, decisions... |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
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Posted - 08 Dec 2009 : 13:26:45
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Originally posted by Alisttair
All right. Finished Azure Bonds yesterday and now I have started reading The Wyvern's Spur at work and reading the 1E/2E adventure Curse of the Azure bonds at home.
Done both of these now. The Wyvern's Spur was excellent. I think I can adapt Curse to 4E fairly easily (which I will do with Ruins of Adventure as well I think). Song of the Saurials I am 100 pages or so in it and enjoying |
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swifty
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Dec 2009 : 21:50:59
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| just finished son of thunder.solid book with some nice zhentarim references.bladesinger next. |
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Sandro
Learned Scribe
New Zealand
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Posted - 17 Dec 2009 : 08:46:09
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| I'm about halfway through The Sword Never Sleeps, and I must say the Knights of Myth Drannor trilogy is probably Ed's finest work on the novel side of things. All three of them have been gripping, engaging reads, and 'tis very nice to see the very evil, very capable Manshoon going about his business. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 22 Dec 2009 : 18:55:49
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Originally posted by Alisttair
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Originally posted by Alisttair
All right. Finished Azure Bonds yesterday and now I have started reading The Wyvern's Spur at work and reading the 1E/2E adventure Curse of the Azure bonds at home.
Done both of these now. The Wyvern's Spur was excellent. I think I can adapt Curse to 4E fairly easily (which I will do with Ruins of Adventure as well I think). Song of the Saurials I am 100 pages or so in it and enjoying
And Song of the Saurials was....AWESOME...now when I get a chance (which is actually hard at this time of year) I am enjoying Masquerades. |
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Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
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How up to date are you with reading FR novels?
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