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Arivia
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Posted - 27 Oct 2003 :  23:45:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hmm...The Silver Marches, the Unapproachable East, magic, and definitely the 3e rules, and game balance in particular.
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William of Waterdeep
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Posted - 28 Oct 2003 :  03:42:55  Show Profile  Visit William of Waterdeep's Homepage Send William of Waterdeep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Waterdeep.......I know its not much,a little about the Western Heartlands and Sword Coast.Wish I was an expert on Berdusk but so much
is unclear about it.

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The Sage
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Posted - 30 Oct 2003 :  02:24:14  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
...Toril...




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Arivia
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Posted - 30 Oct 2003 :  05:10:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's not right, Sage. You have to include the rest of the planes too!
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The Sage
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I thought about that, but the subject topic of this scroll only mentioned 'FR expertise'...

The FR planar cosmology is not what I use for my FR, but then most everybody here should know that by now anyway.




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Arivia
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Posted - 30 Oct 2003 :  06:01:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just wanted to make sure everyone gave you the proper respect as "Sage of the Planes".
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The Cardinal
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Well, for myself I am gradually devouring everything I can on deceased Godsand learning what I can about the Iron Throne.

On the side note,I am learning more on the 'Lower' planes (which the ultimate question arises, do planes have a height according to eachother?) and their inhabitants, and while Sage may claim the title of Grand Sage of the Planes now, perhaps one day the Title will be mine...Mwa ha ha ha ha!

.. Currently though, I will be passing judgement on Drizzit ()... once I'm done these bloody Salvatore novels... * rubs eyes*... Still just a young scribe (generally) and the scrolls of Candlekeep are trying to best me...


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MuadDib
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Posted - 30 Oct 2003 :  08:26:39  Show Profile  Visit MuadDib's Homepage Send MuadDib a Private Message  Reply with Quote
someone please tell me where my area of expertise is. And i will slap the first person that says serving drinks cause that is 'way' below the belt...

Come to think of it, what do I really contribute to the boards...

hmmm.

Ok, my area of expertise, sad though it may be, is entheusiasm.

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The Sage
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Posted - 30 Oct 2003 :  10:51:08  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Cardinal Deimos said -
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On the side note,I am learning more on the 'Lower' planes (which the ultimate question arises, do planes have a height according to eachother?)
It was the traditional view that 'Upper' Planes equated to the three categories of Good alignment, while 'Lower' Planes equates with the three Evil alignments. There is no actual height, or any type of spatial dimensions involved in the structure of the Planes, other than what is used to enclose 'infinite' planes.

The overall planar structure as illustrated in MotP 3e should give a rough idea of the planar make-up.

On a side-note, the Lower Planes have always been one of my main areas of focus, but since my purchase of the Book of Exalted Deeds, that focus has shifted (at least for the moment) to the Upper Celestial Realms. I am actually very happy with what WotC have done in bringing the Celestial realms into 3e, most of the conversions stay true to what was presented in 2e PS.


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Minardil
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Posted - 01 Nov 2003 :  18:28:44  Show Profile  Visit Minardil's Homepage Send Minardil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Some would say that my special knowledge would be spells and magic. I probably remember most of wizard/sorcerer-spells from Player's Handbook and Magic of Faerūn. Also, I have somewhat accurate knowledge of Sword Coast, from Tethyr to Icewind Dale, mainly thanks to Baldur's Gate series and, of course, books. I also remember most of gods listed in Campaign Setting, and I'm saving money for Faiths & Pantheons.

Things I should know more about are especially Western Heartlands, Cormyr, Dalelands, Cormanthor and alike, but there truly isn't a stage when you don't have to need to learn more about things (that's one ugly looking sentence, but I'm Finnish, hey).

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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 02 Nov 2003 :  04:26:42  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Higher planes, lower planes . . . it's all a manifestation of differing energy states.

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The Sage
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Posted - 02 Nov 2003 :  12:51:16  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's so much more, at least according to most of the Planescape products you read. There are a few interesting planar origin theories described which suggest otherwise.

I'll summarise a few of the theories put forth and post them here when I get the time.


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William of Waterdeep
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Posted - 02 Nov 2003 :  16:18:32  Show Profile  Visit William of Waterdeep's Homepage Send William of Waterdeep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Also explain to me why Sigil and the Outlands are considered Planscape and the other planes aren't when on the map material it is all connected.Maybe the wrong place to ask this but the door was open.
This is starting to be one of those,"The more I find out,the less I know" deal for me.

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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 02 Nov 2003 :  22:59:59  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sage of Perth

It's so much more, at least according to most of the Planescape products you read. There are a few interesting planar origin theories described which suggest otherwise.

I'll summarise a few of the theories put forth and post them here when I get the time.





Heh. Sage, it was supposed to be a funny. A little physics humor . . . .

Don't worry, I often make jokes that make sense only to my own twisted little brain cells.

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William of Waterdeep
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Posted - 02 Nov 2003 :  23:09:03  Show Profile  Visit William of Waterdeep's Homepage Send William of Waterdeep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bookwyrm said-
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Don't worry, I often make jokes that make sense only to my own twisted little brain cells.
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Arivia
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Posted - 02 Nov 2003 :  23:33:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The joke made sense to me.
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The Cardinal
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Posted - 02 Nov 2003 :  23:57:21  Show Profile  Visit The Cardinal's Homepage Send The Cardinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I agree it made sense. ANyways though... Let's look at Mechanus cause it been a umm true Lawful Neutral plane, it sits right in the middle (actually I have my own theories about where it truely sits and it's true importance on the Planes but no time for mad ramblings now). But It being lawful, and totally neutral, isn't their a problem with it possibly having too many chaotic pockets I mean isn't it supposed to have equal of everything but chaos is always breaking boundries then what would be the counter weight?... Wait.. am I thinking of another plane... hmm...


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Dracandos the Spellsage
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Posted - 05 Nov 2003 :  01:10:40  Show Profile  Visit Dracandos the Spellsage's Homepage Send Dracandos the Spellsage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
it seems 2 me that no1 can be an expert on anything in the FR. it is so vast, n even 1 particular topic it would be immpossible 4 any 1 person 2 know everything about it. it also seems that not much is learned from the novels more can be aquired from other resources. now i think i know quite a lot, my strong areas and areas of interest would be magic, the gods, and undead...but certainly im not anywhere near an expert at any FR topic

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The Sage
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Posted - 05 Nov 2003 :  01:46:00  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bookwyrm said -
quote:
Heh. Sage, it was supposed to be a funny. A little physics humor . . . .

I know, and I liked it . However I was using what you said to lead the topic into the next point of discussion about the planes. But since I haven't had the time to summarise those theories I was going to talk about, they will have to wait until Friday.



William of Waterdeep said -
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Also explain to me why Sigil and the Outlands are considered Planscape and the other planes aren't when on the map material it is all connected.Maybe the wrong place to ask this but the door was open.
To which maps are you referring?.

The only possible explanation I can offer is that at the time the PS setting was published, the Inner, Outer and Transitive Planes connected the entire TSR mulitverse, so in essence, the Planes were not entirely the province of Sigil and the Outlands.

The reason that Sigil and the Outlands are considered Planescape is because they were created purely for the setting. The planes have always existed in whatever form since the early beginnings of the game, but Sigil was specifically created to give PC's a place to base adventures from on the Planes. Read your PS boxed set, it explains it all in there. Or alternatively you can wait for the next chapter of the PSCS 3e, which I believe discusses some of these issues.




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William of Waterdeep
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Posted - 05 Nov 2003 :  04:13:18  Show Profile  Visit William of Waterdeep's Homepage Send William of Waterdeep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sage said-
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To which maps are you referring?.

The only possible explanation I can offer is that at the time the PS setting was published, the Inner, Outer and Transitive Planes connected the entire TSR mulitverse, so in essence, the Planes were not entirely the province of Sigil and the Outlands.

The reason that Sigil and the Outlands are considered Planescape is because they were created purely for the setting. The planes have always existed in whatever form since the early beginnings of the game, but Sigil was specifically created to give PC's a place to base adventures from on the Planes. Read your PS boxed set, it explains it all in there. Or alternatively you can wait for the next chapter of the PSCS 3e, which I believe discusses some of these issues.
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(1)Which maps:From PSCS 2e boxed set,Well of Worlds,On Hallowed Ground.
(2)When does the PSCS 3e come out,have you heard of a release date?
So Sigil just had easier access to these planes or is it that they can see these doors and like on Toril with the Infinate Staircase,primes can't see it.(does that make sense?)

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The Sage
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Posted - 06 Nov 2003 :  06:55:27  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The PSCS 3e is being released in parts at the moment, but they are preview chapters, with some details and formatting still to be finalised. The final product will be released for download in both PDF and RTF formats I have been told. As for a final release date, nothing definite has been set as not all of the preview chapters have been released.

Feedback and comments are a crucial part of this revision, so everything has to be just right for the finished product.

As for the map issue, I'll look over them tonight.


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darkflame millithor
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Dg,and the great mortal drizzt your knowlege is such that I will allow you to serve me,as my proxy.Your knowlege is enough not to reflect badly on your better,namly me!(thunder clasp,blazing light, toll of doom trumpets).ah ha ha ha .,I am in need of good(not nesseserily alignment)leutinants.Bow down and plege you loyalty,and you may argue of who is most knowlegable for eternity in my service,and help me spread my worship across the multiverse.Starting with Toril.Be my Chosen!(thunder crash)

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Drakul
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I mainly study the Underdark and the Drow. I love the Drow and everything about them.

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Wooly Rupert
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I'm pretty good on Waterdeep, especially the Lords. Ditto for Undermountain. I've got a decent amount of knowledge on Cormyr, too. I'm really weak on Realms geography.

Oh, and I'm also good about knowing where to look for info.

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Kuje
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Hmmm.....

I dunno, I guess I'd have to say NPC's, the planes, spelljammer, some history, and other areas. I really don't think I have a area that I'm better at then any other when it comes to lore. Well, one of my weak points are remembering all the named magical items. :)

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Wooly Rupert
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Oh, Spelljammer is a big area of expertise for me! I just didn't mention it because I was sticking with the purely FR stuff.

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Fletcher
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Posted - 03 May 2006 :  20:22:43  Show Profile  Visit Fletcher's Homepage Send Fletcher a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have no area of expertise, but I particularly like Sembian lore, what little there is available.

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Snotlord
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I'm a generalist, with a fondness of Amn, Cormyr and everything Zhentarim-related.
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The Sage
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To expand upon my earlier ramblings... I'd have to say the Border Kingdoms, the Moonsea, history and Realmlore references, spelljamming, planar travel and cosmologies. But I've dabbled with a little of everything really, so it's hard to exclusively specify (and also why my earlier suggestion nearly three years ago -- of "Toril" -- might not be the jest I originally thought it was ).

My poor areas and FR-specific stats and dragons.

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Anyone else notice how many of our fellow scribes can just pick up a conversation they started, say, three years ago as if they just left to answer the phone, and start right back up where they left off?

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