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Jaysen Darclyght
Acolyte
USA
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 Posted - 28 Oct 2004 : 13:57:03
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In my campaign, the setting has advanced both technologically and magically to a level comparative of 1870's Earth. There are guns, but there are still swords and most melee weapons. And armor still exists, albiet in a combination of WW1 and ancient Greek styles (thick leather trench coats and some metal plating). There are airships, though mostly in Zepplin, or Elemental design. And there is knowledge of several other continents, though little of those continents interiors.
Thats what the players know in a nutshell.
But I know...
The Cosmology is set up that the equivalent of Celestia (Heaven) is actually many 'asteroidal cities' in orbit around the planet just inside the orbit of its first moon. Now these cities are like the flying cities of the Netherese, with mountianous terrain on the bottom and crystaline cities on top. Within said cities live the Angels, Archons, Eldarin, etc. Every 100000 Years the cities coalesce into the actual plane and is coterminous with the planet for the next several years. The last time the planet and the 'heaven' were coterminous were about 100000 years ago, and all civilizations were primitives. When the Heavenly folk came down, they were worshiped as gods. (In my world there were no Gods at first) And from this worship the most powerful of Angelic Lords became veritable Dieties, minus any actual divine rank. But then the coterminous event ended, and the next 100000 years went by.
In those 100000 years, much happened and by the time the 'heaven' plane was again coterminous, actual Gods had arisen (The Ascension of the Eight). And the angelic lords were angry and vengeful of the betrayal and 'evil' of their worshippers so they 'invaded' the worlds equivalent of Central America were there was a thriving civilization. The people fought hard, and eventally the gods themselves intervened. In the end the civilization fell, but the angles were sent back to their plane and the planar orbit was changed, (unintentionally) so that in a 1000 years, it would be coterminous again.
Enter the players.
They are university students who essentially are going to be tomb explorers at first until they end up having world spanning adventures that lead up into the second coming of the Angels.
But this time its going to be a whole lot worse. The first time the 'heaven' was only coterminous with the central America continent, which was more or less a stone age civilization. This time 'heaven' is coterminous with the continent of Caminus, Amiran, Galanon, and the equivalent of North Europe and Western Asia. Most of which is industrialized.
I feel the general consesus around here is that tech is bad and buy extention, heavy industry and guns, and tech of that nature is bad. Thats what the angels think (besides the fact that their worshipers are long gone) So the angels come back to set themselves back up as the gods.
So theres a brief synopsis.
Now, what are your thoughts?
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 28 Oct 2004 : 16:36:25
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I smell a lot of influence and inspiration for this campaign idea, not the least of which is Eberron. There even feels like there's a little Stargate and Neon Genesis Evangelionthrown in for good measure.
Overall, your idea in interesting.
I don't have a lot of time to process all of this at the moment, so I'll comment further later. But for now, let me just ask this. You seem to be populating this idea with many outer planar exemplars... Angels, Archons, and the Eladrins. So, where are the Guardinals? As standard, angels and archons are usually interpreted as the same. It might be worth stating that the three races of law (LG, NG, CG) in your setting idea are actually examples of the Archons, Eladrins, and the Guardinals.
I'll comment further later.
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Senbar Flay
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 29 Oct 2004 : 01:06:46
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| I know this qwestion might be of topic but it has been bugging me! when the gods preach there dogma and it says they oppose such and such it means they instruct there followers to do things aginst the enemy gods on Toril. But do they have people in commandd of armies of celestials and fiends who have outer planar wars and battles. Cause if they say a god oppses the other they must fight on their turf too right? |
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Jaysen Darclyght
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 29 Oct 2004 : 01:47:18
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Your right Sage, i left out the Guardinals, but it was an accident cause I wrote the post while at school without my books. And your right again Eberron is a big influence. As is Indiana Jones (Ironically I.J. influenced Eberron too).
Not to sure how Stargate fits in, nor Neon Genesis Evangelion, but i haven't seen the latter and as for the former, I must be having a brain fart.
But the basic premise is that the world is beyond the control of the Angellic peoples. It wasn't in ages past, but it is now and they want to set it the way they think it is right. So they have a 'jihad' of sorts to root out the evil of the modern world, (mainly the tech and magic level) But the biggest thorn in their sides is the Eight Divines. They are all True Neutral and Divine Rank of 17. No intermediate or below. All greater. But the ironic thing is all of these deities are actually only a thousand years old or so, (The elven and dwarven god might be older). around the year 875 in my worlds time reckoning, all of the gods were mortals, and the world was moving towards a state of atheism. Before this, the mortals beleived in nonexistant gods (the angels) this belief balanced out the nonexistance. But since there was now disbelief, that was balanced out by 8 people ascending to godhood. These 8 were random people I made up (not any of my friends Characters) and all took up portfolios and names that corresponded to who they were before their deification. Now these Gods originally set the Angel's jihad back a thousand years, and now they gotta do it again. But I'm gonna make them fight it out (so they have a 100000 yrs instead of another 1000).
So to answer Senbars question, I don't think the FR deities lead armies of celestials, but perhaps they do. But my gods definitely don't, as the celestials are their enemy's.
So imagine a line of infantry or cavalry, and a rider pulls up. And that rider is a GOD! He says a speech that inspires not only from the words but from his divine power, and then they CHARGE! Humans with swords and guns and magic and gods fight Archons with swords and magic and Angels and Guardinals.... You get the idea
It suffices to say, if this were a video game or a movie. It'd have a huge bugdet, and massive cinematics. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 29 Oct 2004 : 05:34:52
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Someone have a cleric standing by, because I think Alaundo's going to throw a fit when he sees this scroll . . . .  |
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Talwyn
Learned Scribe
Australia
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Posted - 29 Oct 2004 : 09:14:51
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Hmm, well if the old boy does have a fit or canniptions, I can be ready to Lay on Hands as well as offer a nice hot cup of tea! 
Or there's a hip flask of Uisghae if he needs something a little stronger perhaps? |
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Up until Doom, no one seemed to have thought about the double-barrel shotgun.
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29 Oct 2004 : 09:54:35
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Well as ye know, i'm always very lenient when it comes to scrolls written not of the Realms, in the belief that it IS leading up to some Realms-relevance However, this scroll does indeed disturb me somewhat. Mayhaps that staff of the irritated moderator +10 is warranted after all? 
If any scribe herein can recover this scroll to some relevance, then feel free do to so, lest it be confined to the archives. Thank ye. |
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Jaysen Darclyght
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 29 Oct 2004 : 15:05:57
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Here's the connection to the realms.
While my world has very little to do with the realms, it does have some similarities. For instance, advance the tech and magic in FR to industrial and you have my world with a new geography. So, one can think of my campaign as an experiment to see what would happen in a FR similar world should tech advance.
Hope thats good for you Alaundo.
If not...Sorry... |
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Jaysen Darclyght
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 29 Oct 2004 : 15:15:20
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Yeah, the more I think about it, the better it seems to me.
So, that I might avert the striking down of the vengeful Moderator wrath of Alaundo, I volunteer this post to be an experiment in thinking for people who have put some thought into the tech in the realms page. We can use my realm, so I get good help for that, and it allows for a clinical detachment. If it works we would be able to see once and for all whether or not Tech in the realms is a good thing, based upon the end state of my world.
Good Idea? No? Yes? Please say yes.
PS. Alaundo..I'm none too fluent in Forums, so forgive me if I misplaced my post, If it is at all possible I would move it, but if not could you inform me as to where i should post such things in the future?
Thanks.
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29 Oct 2004 : 15:51:09
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quote:
Originally posted by Jaysen Darclyght
PS. Alaundo..I'm none too fluent in Forums, so forgive me if I misplaced my post, If it is at all possible I would move it, but if not could you inform me as to where i should post such things in the future?
Thanks.
AUT VINCERE AUT MORI!
Well met
Oh worry not too much, Jaysen Darclyght, this area is fine for general discussions, mayhaps the Running the Realms area would have suited, but it matters not. I'll leave it be.... for now |
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Jaysen Darclyght
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 29 Oct 2004 : 21:06:14
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Oh many thanks.. 
But with regards to my proposition, lets do it, it'll be a fun experiment. Almost as fun as burning magnesium! (Its so BRIGHT!)
Well....maybe...more fun..., but then Magnesium is a close second! |
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29 Oct 2004 : 21:20:38
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quote:
Originally posted by Jaysen Darclyght
Oh many thanks..
But with regards to my proposition, lets do it, it'll be a fun experiment. Almost as fun as burning magnesium! (Its so BRIGHT!)
Well....maybe...more fun..., but then Magnesium is a close second!
Well met
So long as the discussion is Realms-basd, I have no objection  |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 29 Oct 2004 : 23:19:49
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| Is this really the Realms? I've never heard of those continent names before. |
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Jaysen Darclyght
Acolyte
USA
43 Posts |
Posted - 30 Oct 2004 : 02:34:11
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Bookwyrm, the continent's names are my own.
I just mentioned them because, well the original reason is moot now, But for the idea of a FR experiment, they sorta have analogues in FR, (Caminus=West Faerun, Amiran=East Faerun). This way if something happens in my world, one can extrapolate its effect upon Toril with some degree of geographicall accuracy.
For example:
If Caminus sunk into the sea due to a nuclear explosion, we would see the devastating effect a nuke could have on Cormyr, Amn, Waterdeep, etc. And if you have any ideas how my original idea would play out or should play out, post them on my other post in the "Running the Realms" area, under Angellic Wars of Vengeance. But if anyone wants to commment on this, do so, but forget about my motives, and lets use my creation as a guinea pig to test tech in a fantasy setting somewhat like FR. (but nowhere near as cool I'm afraid. , but hey, we can't all be creative genius's like Ed Greenwood, or now you Bookwyrm!)
PS. A tardy congrats on that, just read it today.
Grazie e Ciao. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 30 Oct 2004 : 05:39:53
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"Creative genius"? All I did was take a character from Earth to explore Ed Greenwood's creation (and by extension, D&D) from the outside in. The character's original, but not much else.
Wait on such a tag until I manage to cook some series up that gets a base as wide-spread as, say, David Weber's books. (No way I'll ever be on par with the Forgotten Realms, of course. ) |
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