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Dargoth
Great Reader
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 Posted - 09 Dec 2004 : 23:05:43
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Introduction 4
The Ruin-Based Campaign 4
What’s Inside 5
What You Need to Play 5
Chapter 1: Ancient Secrets 6
Ancient Feats 6
Arcane Manipulation 6
Arcane Transfiguration 6
Channel Charge 7
Cormanthyran
Moon Magic 7
Craft Scepter 8
Familiar Concentration 8
Godsight 8
Greenbound Summoning 8
Item Reprieve 8
Jergal’s Pact 8
Multilingual 8
Netherese Battle Curse 8
Servant of the Fallen 9
Spell Reprieve 9
Trapmaster 9
Wounding Spell 9
Prestige Classes 10
Cultist of the
Shattered Peak 10
Glorious Servitor 13
Magelord 17
Olin Gisir 21
Sunmaster 25
Ancient Spells 29
Assassin Spell 29
Bard Spell 29
Cleric Spells 29
Druid Spells 29
Paladin Spell 29
Sorcerer/Wizard Spells 29
Spell Descriptions 30
Chapter 2:
Dreams of the Past 36
The Ruins of the Past 36
Cities into Dungeons 36
Interesting Sites 38
Ancient Deities 41
Amaunator 41
Auppenser 41
Bhaal 41
Gilgeam 42
Leira 42
Moander 42
Myrkul 43
Ramman 43
Tchazzar 43
Epic Magic 43
Mystra’s Ban and
Epic Magic 43
Epic Spell 43
Epic Spell Seeds 44
Mythals 45
What Is a Mythal? 45
Raising a Mythal 45
Sample Mythal: The Wards
of Silverymoon 50
Chapter 3:
The Crown Wars 51
History 51
Timeline 51
Keepers of the Past 52
Songs and Stories 53
Important Sites 56
Aryvandaar 56
Illefarn 57
Ilythiir 58
Miyeritar 58
Legacies of the Crown Wars 59
Adventure Seeds 59
Buried Secrets 59
Chapter 4:
God-Kings of the East 60
History 60
Timeline 60
Keepers of the Past 63
Songs and Stories 63
Important Sites 64
Imaskar 64
Mulhorand 66
Narfell 67
Raumathar 68
Unther 69
Legacies of the
Old Empires 70
Adventure Seeds 70
Buried Secrets 70
Heirs to the Empire 70
Adventure Site:
Sonjar’s Tower 72
Background 72
The Earth Node 72
Tower Features 73
Keyed Areas 73
Chapter 5:
Realms of the High Forest 83
History 83
Timeline 84
Keepers of the Past 85
Songs and Stories 85
Important Sites 86
Ammarindar 86
Delzoun 87
Eaerlann 89
Sharrven 91
Siluvanede 92
Legacies of the
High Forest 92
Adventure Seeds 92
Heirs of the High Forest 94
Chapter 6: Fallen Netheril 95
High and Low Netheril 95
History 96
Timeline 96
Keepers of the Past 100
Songs and Stories 102
Important Sites 104
The Lost Kingdoms 104
Low Netheril 105
Netherese Colonies 107
Shattered Cities 108
Surviving Cities 109
Western Diaspora 109
Legacies of Netheril 111
Adventure Seeds 111
Buried Secrets 111
Heirs to the Empire 112
Chapter 7:
The Imperial South 113
History 113
Timeline 113
Keepers of the Past 116
Songs and Stories 117
Important Sites 117
Coramshan 117
High Shanatar 118
Memnonnar 119
Jhaamdath 120
Shoon Imperium 121
Tethir 122
Legacies of the Past 123
Adventure Seeds 123
Buried Secrets 123
Heirs to the Empire 124
Chapter 8: The Dream of
Cormanthyr 125
History 125
Timeline 125
Keepers of the Past 129
Songs and Stories 129
Important Sites 132
The Elven Court 132
Myth Drannor 133
Semberholme 133
Vale of Lost Voices 133
Legacies of Cormanthyr 134
Adventure Seeds 134
Buried Secrets 135
Chapter 9:
The Old North 136
History 136
Timeline 136
Keepers of the Past 142
Songs and Stories 142
Important Sites 142
Ardeep 142
Gauntlgrym 143
Old Illusk 144
Phalorm 144
Legacies of the
Old North 146
Adventure Site:
Keep on the Frontier 146
Background 146
Keep Features 146
Keyed Areas 146
Concluding the
Adventure 150
Chapter 10:
Artifacts of the Past 151
Magic Item Descriptions 151
Weapons 151
Rings 152
Scepters 153
Staffs 153
Wondrous Items 154
Artifacts 156
Minor Artifacts 156
Major Artifacts 157
Chapter 11: Monsters of the
Ancient Lands 160
Arachnids, Giant 160
Combat 160
Giant Whip Scorpion 160
Giant Whip Spider 161
Giant Sun Spider 162
Baneguard 162
Baneguard 162
Direguard 162
Crawling Claw 163
Combat 164
Creation 164
Curst 165
Sample Curst 165
Creating a Curst 165
Deepspawn 166
Combat 167
Demon, Ghour 168
Combat 168
Dread 169
Combat 169
Dread Warrior 169
Sample Dread Warrior 169
Creating a
Dread Warrior 170
Flameskull 171
Combat 171
Foulwing 172
Combat 172
Gorynych 172
Combat 173
Greenbound Creature 173
Sample
Greenbound Creature 174
Creating a
Greenbound Creature 174
Helmed Horror 175
Helmed Horror 175
Battle Horror 177
Ixzan 177
Combat 178
Lycanthrope 178
Combat 178
Lycanthrope,
Drow Werebat 178
Lycanthrope,
Werecat 179
Lycanthrope,
Werecrocodile 181
Lycanthrope,
Wereshark 183
Metalmaster 184
Combat 184
Nightshade, Nighthaunt 185
Combat 185
Nishruu 186
Combat 186
Phaerimm 187
Combat 187
Phaerimm Characters 189
Tomb Tapper 189
Combat 190
Construction 190
Tressym 191
Combat 191
Velvet Worm, Giant 191
Combat 192
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 10 Dec 2004 : 01:40:13
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Some comments
It seems to be very light on crunch
It looks like there finally going to address Mystras denial and Epic magic
Ill be most intrigued to read what theyve written about Bhaal and Mykrul
Im a little disturbed that most of the lost empires only get one page.... |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 10 Dec 2004 : 01:55:51
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| From what you have posted, Dargoth, it is automatically a must-have for me. I particularly want to know more abuot the ancient deities and the old elven kingdoms. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36965 Posts |
Posted - 10 Dec 2004 : 02:36:02
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Whoa... Some of that stuff looks seriously intriguing... It's too bad that there's not more of a write-up on the empires, though. This book could be three times as long and still not provide all the lore we want!  |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 10 Dec 2004 : 02:48:47
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| I see Crown Wars, High Forest, and Cormanthyr so I'm happy. |
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Capn Charlie
Senior Scribe
USA
418 Posts |
Posted - 10 Dec 2004 : 02:50:41
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| Well, this is one I'll have to have, no questions asked. Information on the old empires AND the crown war era? How could I refuse... |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 10 Dec 2004 : 03:02:16
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Dargoth:
Where did you find this information? WOTC Boards and Richard Baker? Or another source?
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Mystery_Man
Senior Scribe
USA
455 Posts |
Posted - 10 Dec 2004 : 03:45:46
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I'm shocked, I'm happy. I'm shappy!
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Kentinal
Great Reader
4702 Posts |
Posted - 10 Dec 2004 : 05:52:02
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Hmm considering that less then a page is devoted to many of the topics either the print font is extremely small or the topics not well discussed.
Oh BTW shouting tends not to impress some either. |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
"Judgement" copyright 2003 by Elizabeth Moon |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 10 Dec 2004 : 06:39:45
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quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack
Dargoth:
Where did you find this information? WOTC Boards and Richard Baker? Or another source?
The Ask Rich Baker thread |
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Emperor Sigismund
"Its good to be the King!"
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1796 Posts |
Posted - 10 Dec 2004 : 07:43:15
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Whoa! this is some serious must-have bookage!!!! 
I can't begin to babble about what I can't wait to read from these pages... Cormanthyrian Moon Magic... <drooling all over my chin...> |
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Alexander Heppe
Seeker
Germany
62 Posts |
Posted - 10 Dec 2004 : 08:04:12
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Wow. Just in case you got me wrong, once again:
Wow!
Finally a book which summarizes why the Realms are called "forgotten", after all, explaining why there are so many nice little dungeons to throw at your players.
And adventures, too! But I can't help myself, but "Keep on the Frontier" reminds me of something I´ve played before in another campaign...
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Reefy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
892 Posts |
Posted - 10 Dec 2004 : 10:45:20
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| I have to say it wasn't initially a title which struck me as must have but I thought I probably would buy it. Having seen the contents, I must confess I'm now very much looking forward to it. The only thing I'm slightly put out by is that a large chunk of the monsters are from Monsters of Faerûn, probably only being slightly amended to update to 3.5. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6688 Posts |
Posted - 10 Dec 2004 : 12:06:25
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Hey, this could actually turn out to be a good product!
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Brother Ezra
Learned Scribe
USA
268 Posts |
Posted - 10 Dec 2004 : 12:52:06
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I'm pretty excited after reviewing the contents. Looks like they went for a comprehensive coverage of every major ancient empire and tried to give at least a little coverage to each, instead of focusing on a select number of ancient realms and neglecting others entirely. This is a must-have for me for three reasons:
1. Narfell, Raumathar and Imaskar are covered.
2. Mystra's Ban is covered.
3. Looks like they will make an attempt to update the epic spell seeds from the Epic Level Handbook to 3.5.
Overall, I'm very encouraged, and look forward to having it in my grubby mitts. |
"Suffering is the touchstone of all spiritual growth."
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
5699 Posts |
Posted - 10 Dec 2004 : 14:00:21
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Well met
Absolutely splendid  Thank ye, Dargoth. I'm even more excited about this tome. Like Brother Ezra, i'm especially glad to see the likes of Nar within it's pages
I would liked to have seen more space devoted to each area, but with how ancient Faerun is, and the number of places to cover, the tome would be a fair size if that were the case.
I wonder, are there any maps within?
Oh, and Dargoth..... i'm very pleased with the lack of crunch, as i'm sure are many others
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Xysma
Master of Realmslore
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36965 Posts |
Posted - 10 Dec 2004 : 23:05:46
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quote:
Originally posted by Xysma
I am even more excited about this book now. I'm really looking forward to the information on the Mythals and the dead gods, but everything in it looks interesting. Now, if only Champions of Ruin and City of Splendors look as promising, we're in for a good year.
I'm curious to see what they say about Mythals, myself -- particularly Silverymoon's mythal. I certainly hope they explain how it got there, since it was never mentioned before 3E...
But I must ask you a question: How can a book on Waterdeep not look promising? |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 10 Dec 2004 : 23:36:28
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I'm curious to see what they say about Mythals, myself -- particularly Silverymoon's mythal. I certainly hope they explain how it got there, since it was never mentioned before 3E...
But I must ask you a question: How can a book on Waterdeep not look promising?
Actually it was. :) Volo's Guide to the North mentions it as a rumor but now Mythal's, High Magic, etc, is just all based on the magic in the Epic Handbook. :( |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6688 Posts |
Posted - 11 Dec 2004 : 00:03:05
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For the "greater good" of the Realms, the chapter you should all be looking forward to is the one on Netheril. Trust me.
-- George Krashos
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Hymn
Senior Scribe
Sweden
514 Posts |
Posted - 11 Dec 2004 : 01:11:43
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| Well not for me George, that Chapter 4 just makes me want to sneak over to WotC and steal a copy (what ever state it is in). Hope it's something new more tangiable and not just a summary of the earlier information on the Imaskari. It's 2 full pages which makes it the biggest heap of info on them so far. As for the rest it sure looks interesting as well. Can't wait. And yes, the mucho grande fluff content is sure a nice thing. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6688 Posts |
Posted - 11 Dec 2004 : 06:07:46
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Whilst not intending to derail the excitement train, I will repeat myself from a couple of months ago that this is not an Arcane Age product - using it will not allow you to run a campaign in ancient Imaskar, Narfell, Sharrven, Jhaamdath, et. al. (well, not without a heck of a lot of input on the DM's part). It's a product set in the here and now that gives background on lost empires and talks about their present-day legacies. Also, there's only so much you can fit in a page or so on a realm. Let's not get those unrealistic expectations going ...
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 11 Dec 2004 : 06:53:23
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quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
Whilst not intending to derail the excitement train, I will repeat myself from a couple of months ago that this is not an Arcane Age product - using it will not allow you to run a campaign in ancient Imaskar, Narfell, Sharrven, Jhaamdath, et. al. (well, not without a heck of a lot of input on the DM's part). It's a product set in the here and now that gives background on lost empires and talks about their present-day legacies. Also, there's only so much you can fit in a page or so on a realm. Let's not get those unrealistic expectations going ...
-- George Krashos
It might however provide inspriration for some novels. I already commented on the apparent limited page alocation to topic. In a lot of ways it might be considered (from the sounds of it) a brief lore of many things. An encyclopedia of sorts. It does appear to offer some game tools, feats and so on that could be rediscovered to bring into a more recent time period. If the source is good enough an ancient city might be rediscovered, though as indicated it most likely appears the DM will have to expand the information provided. All in all it will be interesting to discover the contents and how useable they can become. |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
"Judgement" copyright 2003 by Elizabeth Moon |
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Brother Ezra
Learned Scribe
USA
268 Posts |
Posted - 11 Dec 2004 : 14:54:51
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quote:
Originally posted by Alaundo
I wonder, are there any maps within?
I just read on the Realms-L mailing list that there were plans to include a map of the Realms circa DR -650. That would be a lovely addition. |
"Suffering is the touchstone of all spiritual growth."
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Elmonster
Acolyte
Russia
49 Posts |
Posted - 11 Dec 2004 : 18:51:46
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| Very, very interesting. When the sourcebook will be published? |
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
5699 Posts |
Posted - 11 Dec 2004 : 19:15:05
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quote:
Originally posted by Brother Ezra
quote:
Originally posted by Alaundo
I wonder, are there any maps within?
I just read on the Realms-L mailing list that there were plans to include a map of the Realms circa DR -650. That would be a lovely addition.
Well met
Oh splendid, splendid Thank ye Brother Ezra for this information. This map would be fantastic, and something I have wished for for many many years |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 12 Dec 2004 : 04:42:09
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Originally posted by Elmonster
Very, very interesting. When the sourcebook will be published?
February if I recall correctly. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 12 Dec 2004 : 08:32:10
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Ed Bonny has just releaed ssome info about one of the LEOF PrCs
"Glorious Servitor... an ancient prestige class dating back to the arrival of the Mulhorandi gods on Faerun."
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36965 Posts |
Posted - 12 Dec 2004 : 14:04:48
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quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth
Ed Bonny has just releaed ssome info about one of the LEOF PrCs
"Glorious Servitor... an ancient prestige class dating back to the arrival of the Mulhorandi gods on Faerun."
That sounds like it might be interesting, from a lore point of view... |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 14 Dec 2004 : 00:25:26
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| Rich has just confirmed that the LEOF map will be a 2 page spread (ie like the one in Underdark) |
“I am the King of Rome, and above grammar”
Emperor Sigismund
"Its good to be the King!"
Mel Brooks |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 14 Dec 2004 : 04:03:29
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quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth
Rich has just confirmed that the LEOF map will be a 2 page spread (ie like the one in Underdark)
Not my fave type, I much prefer poster/pull out. However, I'll take the above over no map whatsoever.
Gracias Dargoth for passing along the word. |
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