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Kes_Alanadel
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Posted - 16 Oct 2005 :  01:27:04  Show Profile  Visit Kes_Alanadel's Homepage Send Kes_Alanadel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks Kuje :) I wasn't looking forward to reading through 150+ pages, lol

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Kuje
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quote:
Originally posted by Kes_Alanadel

Thanks Kuje :) I wasn't looking forward to reading through 150+ pages, lol



Yeah. :) I've collected all those replies and Alaundo and I have turned them into HTML's or PDF's, which are stored on this site. :)

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by khorne

I see........Please inform me when Halaster decides to take action. When that happens I`ll take a nice long vacation in Sigil. And I`d better sell all my holdings in waterdeep or any other place less than fifty miles from undermountain.......
Hehe... And the Lady of Pain is a better alternative?!

quote:
That, and the Mad Mage does have the sickest sense of humor that comes into play when he's toying with people.
There's some sense of justice to that I think... albeit the madness that's sure to be involved. Additionally, Halaster's got the benefit of time and also has access to some of the most terrifying resources of evil anywhere in the Realms.

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quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by Kes_Alanadel

Thanks Kuje :) I wasn't looking forward to reading through 150+ pages, lol



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khorne
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Posted - 16 Oct 2005 :  14:51:11  Show Profile  Visit khorne's Homepage Send khorne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by khorne

I see........Please inform me when Halaster decides to take action. When that happens I`ll take a nice long vacation in Sigil. And I`d better sell all my holdings in waterdeep or any other place less than fifty miles from undermountain.......
Hehe... And the Lady of Pain is a better alternative?!




Compared to Halaster? oh yes.

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Kes_Alanadel
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Posted - 16 Oct 2005 :  15:13:28  Show Profile  Visit Kes_Alanadel's Homepage Send Kes_Alanadel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

That, and the Mad Mage does have the sickest sense of humor that comes into play when he's toying with people.

After all, Halaster's simplest revenge could be to tap into Priamon's teleport network and fill every chamber connected to it with maggots and offal...but that'd just be the warning that he's found him by the similarities of magic to the teleport networks in Undermountain.

Get the picture? It's less the revenge on his foes Khelben fears as the fallout from each evil archmage one-upping the other in "sending messages" to each other.

Steven



Thank you Steven for replying and adding your insight to this .

Now for my next noobie question....I realize that Halaster is an enigma in the Realms, but is there any source that has any background on him?
Right now, we only have 3.xE sourcebooks for FR, and the way some of them are written (not being critical here, just an observation) they take for granted that a person reads the novels, or played 2e as well. Which in turn, leads me to ask silly questions that others know the answers to, because they have read said novels or played 2e.
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Kuje
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Posted - 16 Oct 2005 :  15:38:20  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
For some background see:

The Undermountain box set.
Villian's Lorebook.
The Stardock adventure.

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Kes_Alanadel
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Posted - 16 Oct 2005 :  15:44:51  Show Profile  Visit Kes_Alanadel's Homepage Send Kes_Alanadel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

For some background see:

The Undermountain box set.
Villian's Lorebook.
The Stardock adventure.



I downloaded the Stardock adventure, but haven't had time to read it yet . The Villian's Lorebook is on the WotC download pafe as well, I believe....And I'll see if I can come across the Undermoutain set somewhere.
Thanks Kuje

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warlockco
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Posted - 16 Oct 2005 :  16:34:51  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kes_Alanadel

quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

For some background see:

The Undermountain box set.
Villian's Lorebook.
The Stardock adventure.



I downloaded the Stardock adventure, but haven't had time to read it yet . The Villian's Lorebook is on the WotC download pafe as well, I believe....And I'll see if I can come across the Undermoutain set somewhere.
Thanks Kuje



Well if you are looking for more downloads...

RPGNow.com has Ruins of Undermountain HERE for $5US, they also have Ruins of Undermountain II for the same price.
They also have the Dungeon Crawl: Undermountain modules listed, but those are free on the WotC site though.

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Kes_Alanadel
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Posted - 16 Oct 2005 :  16:41:30  Show Profile  Visit Kes_Alanadel's Homepage Send Kes_Alanadel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by warlockco

Well if you are looking for more downloads...

RPGNow.com has Ruins of Undermountain HERE for $5US, they also have Ruins of Undermountain II for the same price.
They also have the Dungeon Crawl: Undermountain modules listed, but those are free on the WotC site though.



Well...I actually prefer to have hardcopy, but realize that I won't always be able to find it. Reading off the monitor tends to give me headaches, and I'm a miser when it comes to printing stuff off, LOL. But I will check out RPGNow and nobleknight as well.
Thanks

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warlockco
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Posted - 16 Oct 2005 :  17:09:58  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kes_Alanadel
Well...I actually prefer to have hardcopy, but realize that I won't always be able to find it. Reading off the monitor tends to give me headaches, and I'm a miser when it comes to printing stuff off, LOL. But I will check out RPGNow and nobleknight as well.
Thanks




Know what you mean, and I agree with you on that.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 16 Oct 2005 :  17:47:47  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by warlockco

quote:
Originally posted by Kes_Alanadel
Well...I actually prefer to have hardcopy, but realize that I won't always be able to find it. Reading off the monitor tends to give me headaches, and I'm a miser when it comes to printing stuff off, LOL. But I will check out RPGNow and nobleknight as well.
Thanks




Know what you mean, and I agree with you on that.



There's always eBay. I've gotten a lot of Realms stuff from there.

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Kes_Alanadel
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Posted - 16 Oct 2005 :  17:54:02  Show Profile  Visit Kes_Alanadel's Homepage Send Kes_Alanadel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Very true Wooly...though I have never ventured into eBay

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warlockco
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Posted - 16 Oct 2005 :  19:37:13  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
There's always eBay. I've gotten a lot of Realms stuff from there.



Also there is Amazon.com that is where I have gotten several of my older books, like Drizzt Do'Urden's Guide to the Underdark

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Kes_Alanadel
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Posted - 16 Oct 2005 :  20:39:51  Show Profile  Visit Kes_Alanadel's Homepage Send Kes_Alanadel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by warlockco

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
There's always eBay. I've gotten a lot of Realms stuff from there.



Also there is Amazon.com that is where I have gotten several of my older books, like Drizzt Do'Urden's Guide to the Underdark



Also a ggod idea, thanks Warlockco

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TwigB
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Posted - 17 Oct 2005 :  08:43:53  Show Profile Send TwigB a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmmmm...i'm sure Halaster itches for vengeance, but i doubt he would be able to do anything to the Twisted Ruin, Priamon (i'm guessing he went Demi-lich, judging by his 3ed LoD description..."nothing more than a floating skull etc") and his "allies" would be more than a match for him.
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quote:
Originally posted by TwigB

Hmmmm...i'm sure Halaster itches for vengeance, but i doubt he would be able to do anything to the Twisted Ruin, Priamon (i'm guessing he went Demi-lich, judging by his 3ed LoD description..."nothing more than a floating skull etc") and his "allies" would be more than a match for him.



I'm not so sure about that... Look at what it took for them to simply get Halaster out of Undermountain. Halaster is a lot more powerful than most members of the Twisted Rune, he's got the time to play the long game, and he's got the deviousness to strike them from all sorts of unexpected directions.

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Dargoth
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Posted - 17 Oct 2005 :  13:13:38  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dargoths Top 5 Ways that Halaster Blackcloak will get back at the Twisted rune


1)Reprograms all twisted Runes portals exit on the Positive material plane

2)From now on all Twisted Rune members and leaders have a glowing sign floating over their heads that reads "kill me Im a member of the Twisted Rune" (think Star Elf Art from unapproachable east)

3)Every plan that the Twisted runes leader think up is automatcily mentaly broadcast to every being on Toril

4)Sets all Twisted Ruin Portals so any Mind Flayer that passes through the portal will reappear on the Astral plane specficly in the Throne room of the Githyanki Lich Queen

5)All Twisted Rune Portals now lead to a one way portal that exits on a Comet that is speeding towards Torils sun. The Comet is made out of an Anti Magic material which prevents any one stuck on it from gating, plane jumping or teleporting off it. The only interesting thing on the comet is a letter which reads

"I really Enjoyed my trip to Torils moon. I hope you enjoy your trip to Torils Sun

Signed Halaster Blackcloak"

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Steven Schend
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Posted - 17 Oct 2005 :  18:32:32  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by TwigB

Hmmmm...i'm sure Halaster itches for vengeance, but i doubt he would be able to do anything to the Twisted Ruin, Priamon (i'm guessing he went Demi-lich, judging by his 3ed LoD description..."nothing more than a floating skull etc") and his "allies" would be more than a match for him.



I'm not so sure about that... Look at what it took for them to simply get Halaster out of Undermountain. Halaster is a lot more powerful than most members of the Twisted Rune, he's got the time to play the long game, and he's got the deviousness to strike them from all sorts of unexpected directions.



Also keep this in mind--He doesn't give two figs about the Twisted Rune. The only one he gives a damn about is the Frostrune.

Think of it as someone who's out to kill the Pereghost but doesn't have a problem with the forces of Zhentil Keep.

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That sounds like a description of quite a few members of the Zhentarim to me, Steven

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khorne
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Posted - 17 Oct 2005 :  21:27:53  Show Profile  Visit khorne's Homepage Send khorne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by TwigB

Hmmmm...i'm sure Halaster itches for vengeance, but i doubt he would be able to do anything to the Twisted Ruin, Priamon (i'm guessing he went Demi-lich, judging by his 3ed LoD description..."nothing more than a floating skull etc") and his "allies" would be more than a match for him.



I'm not so sure about that... Look at what it took for them to simply get Halaster out of Undermountain. Halaster is a lot more powerful than most members of the Twisted Rune, he's got the time to play the long game, and he's got the deviousness to strike them from all sorts of unexpected directions.



Also keep this in mind--He doesn't give two figs about the Twisted Rune. The only one he gives a damn about is the Frostrune.

Think of it as someone who's out to kill the Pereghost but doesn't have a problem with the forces of Zhentil Keep.

Maybe he is only interested in Priamon, but I doubt that will stop him from causing general mayhem for the rest of the rune if he believes that will lead him to Priamon.

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khorne
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Posted - 17 Oct 2005 :  21:28:59  Show Profile  Visit khorne's Homepage Send khorne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

Dargoths Top 5 Ways that Halaster Blackcloak will get back at the Twisted rune


1)Reprograms all twisted Runes portals exit on the Positive material plane

2)From now on all Twisted Rune members and leaders have a glowing sign floating over their heads that reads "kill me Im a member of the Twisted Rune" (think Star Elf Art from unapproachable east)

3)Every plan that the Twisted runes leader think up is automatcily mentaly broadcast to every being on Toril

4)Sets all Twisted Ruin Portals so any Mind Flayer that passes through the portal will reappear on the Astral plane specficly in the Throne room of the Githyanki Lich Queen

5)All Twisted Rune Portals now lead to a one way portal that exits on a Comet that is speeding towards Torils sun. The Comet is made out of an Anti Magic material which prevents any one stuck on it from gating, plane jumping or teleporting off it. The only interesting thing on the comet is a letter which reads

"I really Enjoyed my trip to Torils moon. I hope you enjoy your trip to Torils Sun

Signed Halaster Blackcloak"


Number one and three were the best.

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