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Bookwyrm
Great Reader

USA
4740 Posts

Posted - 05 May 2003 :  11:56:35  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mournblade94

Part of the Charm of Homeland Exile and SOJOURN was that you were reading ABOUT the character Drizzt from Crystal Shard. I think the so-called first three books, (Homeland etc.) lose some of their flare without first learning of Drizzt's personality through the Icewind dale trilogy.





Finally! Someone agrees with me! I think you're the first person to do that.

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Mournblade
Master of Realmslore

USA
1288 Posts

Posted - 05 May 2003 :  20:20:43  Show Profile Send Mournblade a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rad

quote:
Originally posted by Bookwyrm

Grr Why must I always have this arguement with everyone! Check the publication dates if you don't believe me.



LOL Publication dates are irrelevant, its the stories timelines that are important.

I must have missed your previous bleats on that particular subject, Bookwyrm, ill pay more attention in future



Rad if it was the timeline that was important and not the stories, would you even give a RATS ARSE about that whiney, arrogant, stupid, uninspiring kid called ANAKIN SKYWALKER???? Why do people even like him? Becasue they know he will one day become the great villain DARTH VADER. Granted George Lucas COULD have made the Phantom Menace and Clone Wars GOOD stand alone movies if he wanted too. But now anakin skywalker will go down is my book as irrelevant.

From the perspective of a writer, if the so called first three books were made first, there would be a radically different flavour to them than they have now. RA salvatore would have wrote them differently. He would have had to do more CHaracter Development of drizzt. He did not need to do that, because of the icewind dale trilogy. Drizzt was already developed. All RA salvatore had to do was explain HOW he got that way. CERTAINLY the Ice wind dale trilogy would of lose its flare by reading the Homeland trilogy first. You may not think so because you did not read the ICEWIND DALE TRILOGY first. Maybe it is because I am a writer that it loses its flare, but I think if you think about it it will.

Phantom Menace and Clone Wars had about as much flare as a lightning bug in any case.

I wish I could send Jar Jar Binks to a land of Torment where only GUNGANS, KENDER, and GULLY DWARVES live.


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KlarthAilerion
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Posted - 05 May 2003 :  21:38:58  Show Profile  Visit KlarthAilerion's Homepage Send KlarthAilerion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
personally, I think reading about Zaknafien in Realms of the Underdark before reading the Dark Elf Trilogy makes the story even better. That's how I originally did it, anyway. Icewind Dale Trilogy can come before or after, depending on how you like to put your tales together.

Then again, what do I know? I'm personally getting a little tired of so many Realms novels published about one central character, but I'm apparently in the (vocal) minority.
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 06 May 2003 :  04:08:15  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I didn't know you were a writer too, Mournblade. Or maybe I did and I'm just too tired to remember it now . . . have you mentioned it on here before?

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Mournblade
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 06 May 2003 :  04:16:21  Show Profile Send Mournblade a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes indeed! I have three short stories on here in the campaign logs, entitled URB, Melancholy Engagement, and Fooling the World. There is One I wanted to send to candlekeep butI sold the rights to it to the Society of Arts and letters, and they published it about 5 years ago. I can't even rememebr where it is but I got $50 for it.

Making Magic is Like Pulling teeth it was called

Oh forget it I have no idea how to post a hyper link...

Just go here: http://www.candlekeep.com/campaign/logs/log-melan.htm

Its one of my older ones. I really need to send some newer ones.



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Edited by - Mournblade on 06 May 2003 04:28:53
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 06 May 2003 :  04:33:25  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Okay, thanks. I'll dog-ear it (bookmark-for-later) to take a look after exam week . . . .

Fifty dollars? More than I got. I didn't get one cent -- but then, it was just a short short story that my campus newsletter published for me.

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Aeriden Raven
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Posted - 06 May 2003 :  09:41:42  Show Profile  Visit Aeriden Raven's Homepage Send Aeriden Raven a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you everyone, for all your replies to my question, although I still do not know what to read first ;) However, I meant the chronological order and not the order in which the books were published. So I guess I will start with the Darkelf trilogy then...

Edited by - Aeriden Raven on 06 May 2003 09:42:55
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DrizzitFan
Acolyte

Singapore
26 Posts

Posted - 28 Jul 2003 :  07:51:45  Show Profile  Visit DrizzitFan's Homepage Send DrizzitFan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If its not too late, Icewind Dale was setup to feature the barbarian Wulfgar, Drizzt was supposted to be a supporting character for Wulfgar. After developing the character and book, RAS realised that there was something special (according to his website rasalvatore.com) abt that drow and the rest is history.

Suggestion is to read Icewind Dale first to get a feel of him as thought out by RAS and then the Dark Elf series thereafter for character development regardless of chronology. The rest come after that.

The Drizzt books in chronological order (not by when the books were written) copied from above site are:
The Dark Elf Trilogy
Homeland
Exile
Sojourn
The Icewind Dale Trilogy
The Crystal Shard
Streams of Silver
The Halfling's Gem
Legacy of the Drow
The Legacy
Starless Night
Siege of Darkness
Passage to Dawn
Paths of Darkness
The Silent Blade
The Spine of the World
Servant of the Shard
Sea of Swords
The Hunter's Blades Trilogy
The Thousand Orcs
The Lone Drow (October 2003)
The Two Swords (October 2004)

Hope that helps.
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Mythander
Learned Scribe

USA
121 Posts

Posted - 28 Jul 2003 :  17:20:18  Show Profile  Visit Mythander's Homepage Send Mythander a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Once again I agree with DrizzitFan. Although you can swap Dark Elf and Icewind Dale, but that is a personal choice. You will not be disappointed either way.


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Aeriden Raven
Acolyte

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Posted - 27 Aug 2003 :  00:33:18  Show Profile  Visit Aeriden Raven's Homepage Send Aeriden Raven a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It is too late, sorry I read Dark Elf trilogy first. Now I have trouble getting into Icewind Dale, but my boyfriend (who outread me ) promised me that it gets better as you read along. So I will try that again. After I finish Lord of the Rigns (for the 6th time or something )

Edited by - Aeriden Raven on 27 Aug 2003 00:34:26
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William of Waterdeep
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USA
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Posted - 12 Sep 2003 :  00:18:37  Show Profile  Visit William of Waterdeep's Homepage Send William of Waterdeep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zemd

i think the first trilogy is the best



I agree with Zemd,although I haven't read "The Lone Drow" and could change my mind after doing so.

Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.



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mikhel
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USA
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Posted - 18 Sep 2003 :  03:13:18  Show Profile  Visit mikhel's Homepage Send mikhel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Being that I just introduced myself to Drizzt Do'Urden back in March, I can only comment on the two series I have read: "The Icewind Dale Trilogy" and "The Dark Elf Trilogy". Of the two,
Dark Elf stands just a little above Icewind Dale, because my favorite part of any character of Forgotten Realms is being introduced to them, and learning about their early years. I am looking forward to reading "The Legacy of the Drow" next.

ummm...."I have nothing witty to say right now"
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fanatic
Acolyte

Austria
34 Posts

Posted - 18 Sep 2003 :  18:55:48  Show Profile  Visit fanatic's Homepage Send fanatic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
itīs one big story, from the beginnig to whatever end will be written.
so itīs hard to decide which one is the best.
i liked homeland very much, for it was new, a whole city full of drow, wow that was scary.

even fantasy has itīs limits
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elven_songstress
Learned Scribe

126 Posts

Posted - 15 Oct 2003 :  10:28:32  Show Profile  Visit elven_songstress's Homepage Send elven_songstress a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No Drizzt and Mr.Clean ( not meant to be rude he just reminds me of the guy from the bottle of Mr.Clean in my youth), aren't siblings.

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Jaraxal was not Drizzt Brother but rather Matron Banrae's third boy who was sacrificed to Lolth, still don't know how he got out of THAT, but here goes, Jarlaxel spared with Zaknifien once and it was believed by Zak that Jari was a better fighter then he, the whole thing with Drizzt was because if I am not mistaken Zak telling Jarlaxel he had found someone who he believed would be able to beat him....

End of the songstress's rant...

We need to be reminded sometimes that a sunrise lasts but a few minutes,but its beauty can burnin our hearts eternally."
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elven_songstress
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126 Posts

Posted - 15 Oct 2003 :  10:34:34  Show Profile  Visit elven_songstress's Homepage Send elven_songstress a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Okay no more chai for the elven songstress I commented on a topic that was way back...

I think I should go crawl in my furs now..

But thats neither here nor there ^_^

My favorite of all the books would have to The Crystal Shard I have read everything that was released on Drizzt even wanted to get Shores of Twilight but it was never released.

I have found that RA Salvatore seems to be having a problem writing for Drizzt, because he's turned the fun loving drow, with the inner spirit and noble air into a almost to sullen creature, he strikes me in nature more like his father then himself.

Now maybe this is just me but what say you guys?

We need to be reminded sometimes that a sunrise lasts but a few minutes,but its beauty can burnin our hearts eternally."
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William of Waterdeep
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USA
829 Posts

Posted - 16 Oct 2003 :  05:55:11  Show Profile  Visit William of Waterdeep's Homepage Send William of Waterdeep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mr Clean says You are more experienced with the Books on Drizzt than myself,but how about I clean that floor for you.

Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.



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