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kaeso
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 Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 03:13:01
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So why don't these two groups get along? And what is the major difference between the two groups? I can't understand why two good groups wouldn't get along.
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warlockco
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 03:41:07
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Originally posted by kaeso
So why don't these two groups get along? And what is the major difference between the two groups? I can't understand why two good groups wouldn't get along.
They aren't on bad terms with each other, necessarily.  They just serve different purposes. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 03:56:10
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With the Harper Schism, the Harpers basically split into three camps:
1)Pro-Twilight Hall; "Khelben's a bad guy, now."
2)Pro-Khelben; "Lay off of him, guys, he's not done us wrong in the past."
3)Neutral; "Who cares who did what, there's Zhents and Thayans to deal with."
The Twilight Hall faction tends to follow Bran Skorlsun, who's got a serious beef with Khelben. That beef, and Khelben's unexplained theft of the Scepter of the Sorcerer-Kings, which he gave to Fzoul, tends to make this faction really not trust Khelben. He stole from them to aid their enemies, it appears...
So that's why that faction doesn't like the Tel'Teukiira.
There's two major differences between the two groups. The Tel'Teukiira answers only to Khelben, instead of a council of senior Harpers, and the Tel'Teukiira is more like the Harpers of old, rather than the pro-good group the current Harpers have become. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 04:22:44
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Kaeso, I'd recommend you also read through the Moonstars section in Cloak & Dagger for the initial thoughts on the Harper Schism itself, as well as the tidbits Steven Schend has managed to share with us here.
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kaeso
Acolyte
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Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 04:29:18
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| So what is Khelben's past? I know he saved Laeral, and he stole that scepter which Fzoul used to destroy a banelich- did Khelben intend for this to happen? And what were the Harpers like in the past? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 04:49:51
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There's a great deal of backstory to those questions.
Fortunately, Ed's Code of the Harpers touches on some of it -- especially with what the Harpers were like in the past.
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 15:28:40
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Originally posted by kaeso
So what is Khelben's past? I know he saved Laeral, and he stole that scepter which Fzoul used to destroy a banelich- did Khelben intend for this to happen? And what were the Harpers like in the past?
kaeso, you can find more about Khelben´s past lookint right here. 
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kaeso
Acolyte
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Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 22:23:14
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thanks for the link Chosen of Moradin, though I think I'm still a little confused  So, the current Khelben is actually the original Khelben, in disguise? If so, how has he lived so long? And also if so, DANG he's been a busy man! Look at all those kids!  |
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 22:32:32
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Originally posted by kaeso
thanks for the link Chosen of Moradin, though I think I'm still a little confused So, the current Khelben is actually the original Khelben, in disguise? If so, how has he lived so long? And also if so, DANG he's been a busy man! Look at all those kids!
You´re welcome!
As a Chosen of the goddess Mystra, Khelben will not die by age (like Tolkien´s elves). The same is true to Elminster, the Seven Sisters, and some more obscure persons in the Realms. |
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