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                      |  Posted - 15 Jun 2004 :  21:30:23           
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           	| I want to find out everything I can about Avariel. |  
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                | hammer of MoradinSenior Scribe
 
    
 
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                      |  Posted - 15 Jun 2004 :  22:44:26         
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                      | They have wings, they are related to Elves(their deity is in the Elven Pantheon), they are listed in the RoF book.  Hey, its a start. |  
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                      |  Posted - 15 Jun 2004 :  23:52:15         
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                      | Is Races of Toril 2nd or 3rd Edition? |  
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                      |  Posted - 15 Jun 2004 :  23:54:31         
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                      | Is it true that they use gnome aging tables and have a -2 to Dexterity and +2 to Constitution?  (2nd Edition) |  
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                | Wooly RupertMaster of Mischief
 
  
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 16 Jun 2004 :  00:34:50       
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                      | quote:Originally posted by aragorn II
 
 Is Races of Toril 2nd or 3rd Edition?
 
 
 
 Races of Faerûn is a 3E book.
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                | SiriusBlackGreat Reader
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 16 Jun 2004 :  04:40:33         
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                      | quote:Originally posted by aragorn II
 
 I want to find out everything I can about Avariel.
 
 
 
 That race has their own star now. Check out an Avariel character in Richard Lee Byer's The Rage and in his short story within Dragon #320.
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                | ChyronLearned Scribe
 
   
 
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                      |  Posted - 16 Jun 2004 :  05:23:50         
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                      | There was also an NPC in Baldur’s Gate 2 named Aerie.  She was a “wingless” Avariel (Her wings had been cut off by her master when she was a slave).  She spends most of the game telling (or whining depending on your point of view  ) about her ordeal and life being a wingless elf.  Not much written on her but you can see her 2E stats here. 
 http://www.planetbaldursgate.com/bg2/encounters/npcs/aerie/
 
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                | SiriusBlackGreat Reader
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 16 Jun 2004 :  05:28:24         
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                      | quote:Originally posted by Chyron
 
 There was also an NPC in Baldur’s Gate 2 named Aerie.
 
 
 
 The computer game? Are they even canon?
  
 Sorry, couldn't resist.
 
 Other novels that feature avariel, albeit in brief appearances include Evermeet: Island of Elves (very briefly) and Heirs of Prophecy.
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                      |  Posted - 16 Jun 2004 :  05:33:28         
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                      | quote:Originally posted by SiriusBlack
 
 The computer game? Are they even canon?
  
 Sorry, couldn't resist.
 
 
 
 
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                | ArravisSeeker
 
  
 
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                      |  Posted - 16 Jun 2004 :  15:17:47         
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                      | SiriusBlack wrote: "That race has their own star now. Check out an Avariel character in Richard Lee Byer's The Rage" 
 Can someone post more information on this? Is the Avariel in The Rage from the Aerie of the Snow Eagles? Any general or specific information on this character and his role would be immensely appreciated. With lot's of overtime work and trying to run a campaign, I no longer have the time to read the novels :(. Anyway... thanks for the info guys! :)
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                      |  Posted - 16 Jun 2004 :  15:25:04         
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                      | quote:Originally posted by Arravis
 Can someone post more information on this? Is the Avariel in The Rage from the Aerie of the Snow Eagles?
 
 
 
 Taegan Nightwind is, if I recall correctly, originally from The Earthwood. You first encounter him in the novel running a salle in Lyrabar. In the end the thing to remember is he's not a knight, but just an avariel.
 
 Readers of the novel should enjoy that last comment.
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                | aragorn IILearned Scribe
 
   
 
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                      |  Posted - 16 Jun 2004 :  21:39:44         
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                      | What is their manueverability class? |  
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                      |  Posted - 16 Jun 2004 :  22:16:56         
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                      | quote:Originally posted by aragorn II
 
 What is their manueverability class?
 
 
 
 From Races of Faerun, pg. 32
 
 
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                | aragorn IILearned Scribe
 
   
 
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                      |  Posted - 17 Jun 2004 :  20:35:05         
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                      | No, no, no.  Maneuverability class as in A, B, C, D, or E.  Come on people.  Second Edition. |  
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                      |  Posted - 17 Jun 2004 :  20:47:29       
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                      | quote:Originally posted by aragorn II
 
 No, no, no.  Maneuverability class as in A, B, C, D, or E.  Come on people.  Second Edition.
 
 
 
 Complete Book of Elves from 2e says C.
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                      |  Posted - 17 Jun 2004 :  20:54:51         
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                      | Are there any modifications to stats (2nd Edition) |  
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                      |  Posted - 17 Jun 2004 :  21:39:55         
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                      | quote:Originally posted by aragorn II
 
 No, no, no.  Maneuverability class as in A, B, C, D, or E.  Come on people.  Second Edition.
 
 
 
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                | SarelleSenior Scribe
 
    
 
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                      |  Posted - 18 Jun 2004 :  00:18:47       
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                      | Aragorn: Have you ever thanked any of the sages who have helped you out? 
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                      |  Posted - 18 Jun 2004 :  01:06:05         
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                | aragorn IILearned Scribe
 
   
 
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                      |  Posted - 18 Jun 2004 :  15:17:14         
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                      | I am very sorry for being ungrateful and rude to you guys when you gave me information.  I also thank you all for the information and links you have supplied. |  
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                      |  Posted - 08 Jul 2004 :  19:16:42         
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                      | How were Avariel created? |  
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                      |  Posted - 08 Jul 2004 :  19:24:58         
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                      | I don't beleive that's really been covered by any of the sources... they seem to have come with the original migration of elves. So they're probably not a "hybrid" sort of creature. |  
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                      |  Posted - 08 Jul 2004 :  19:46:25         
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                      | The Avariel are a complex Race. Ive read a book (dun remember which) that talked about how the Avariel were close to extinction because of a disease that destroyed thier wings completly. also they have been known to been a precious rare thing to sell too as slaves to kings and lords. |  
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                      |  Posted - 08 Jul 2004 :  21:19:26         
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                      | quote:Originally posted by brjr2001
 
 The Avariel are a complex Race. Ive read a book (dun remember which) that talked about how the Avariel were close to extinction because of a disease that destroyed thier wings completly.
 
 
 
 Please let me know if you can recall the source for this information.
 
 
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 also they have been known to been a precious rare thing to sell too as slaves to kings and lords.
 
 
 
 That theme is touched upon briefly in Lisa Smedman's aforementioned novel, Heirs of Prophecy.
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                      |  Posted - 08 Jul 2004 :  21:36:26         
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                      | no prob sirius ill try finding the book |  
                      | on second thought lets not go to candlekeep it is a silly place
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                | SiriusBlackGreat Reader
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 08 Jul 2004 :  21:43:34         
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                      | quote:Originally posted by brjr2001
 
 no prob sirius ill try finding the book
 
 
 
 Thank you. It sounds interesting so I look forward to hearing more if you are successful.
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