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aragorn II
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Posted - 15 Jun 2004 :  21:30:23  Show Profile  Visit aragorn II's Homepage Send aragorn II a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I want to find out everything I can about Avariel.

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Posted - 15 Jun 2004 :  22:44:26  Show Profile  Visit hammer of Moradin's Homepage Send hammer of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
They have wings, they are related to Elves(their deity is in the Elven Pantheon), they are listed in the RoF book. Hey, its a start.

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Sarta
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Aravis did some fine work collating everything to be found on them. You can find it here: http://www.candlekeep.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2326

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aragorn II
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Posted - 15 Jun 2004 :  23:52:15  Show Profile  Visit aragorn II's Homepage Send aragorn II a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is Races of Toril 2nd or 3rd Edition?

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aragorn II
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Posted - 15 Jun 2004 :  23:54:31  Show Profile  Visit aragorn II's Homepage Send aragorn II a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is it true that they use gnome aging tables and have a -2 to Dexterity and +2 to Constitution? (2nd Edition)

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quote:
Originally posted by aragorn II

Is Races of Toril 2nd or 3rd Edition?



Races of Faerűn is a 3E book.

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 16 Jun 2004 :  04:40:33  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by aragorn II

I want to find out everything I can about Avariel.



That race has their own star now. Check out an Avariel character in Richard Lee Byer's The Rage and in his short story within Dragon #320.
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Chyron
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Posted - 16 Jun 2004 :  05:23:50  Show Profile  Visit Chyron's Homepage Send Chyron a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There was also an NPC in Baldur’s Gate 2 named Aerie. She was a “wingless” Avariel (Her wings had been cut off by her master when she was a slave). She spends most of the game telling (or whining depending on your point of view ) about her ordeal and life being a wingless elf. Not much written on her but you can see her 2E stats here.

http://www.planetbaldursgate.com/bg2/encounters/npcs/aerie/

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 16 Jun 2004 :  05:28:24  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chyron

There was also an NPC in Baldur’s Gate 2 named Aerie.



The computer game? Are they even canon?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Other novels that feature avariel, albeit in brief appearances include Evermeet: Island of Elves (very briefly) and Heirs of Prophecy.
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Tethtoril
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Posted - 16 Jun 2004 :  05:33:28  Show Profile  Visit Tethtoril's Homepage Send Tethtoril a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

The computer game? Are they even canon?

Sorry, couldn't resist.




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Arravis
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Posted - 16 Jun 2004 :  15:17:47  Show Profile  Visit Arravis's Homepage Send Arravis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
SiriusBlack wrote: "That race has their own star now. Check out an Avariel character in Richard Lee Byer's The Rage"

Can someone post more information on this? Is the Avariel in The Rage from the Aerie of the Snow Eagles? Any general or specific information on this character and his role would be immensely appreciated. With lot's of overtime work and trying to run a campaign, I no longer have the time to read the novels :(. Anyway... thanks for the info guys! :)

Edited by - Arravis on 16 Jun 2004 15:18:43
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 16 Jun 2004 :  15:25:04  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arravis
Can someone post more information on this? Is the Avariel in The Rage from the Aerie of the Snow Eagles?



Taegan Nightwind is, if I recall correctly, originally from The Earthwood. You first encounter him in the novel running a salle in Lyrabar. In the end the thing to remember is he's not a knight, but just an avariel.

Readers of the novel should enjoy that last comment.
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aragorn II
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Posted - 16 Jun 2004 :  21:39:44  Show Profile  Visit aragorn II's Homepage Send aragorn II a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What is their manueverability class?

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 16 Jun 2004 :  22:16:56  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by aragorn II

What is their manueverability class?



From Races of Faerun, pg. 32

quote:

Avariels have a flying speed of 50 feet with average manueverability, as long as they do not carry more than Medium load, are not wearing Heavy armor, and are not fatigued or exhausted.

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aragorn II
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Posted - 17 Jun 2004 :  20:35:05  Show Profile  Visit aragorn II's Homepage Send aragorn II a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No, no, no. Maneuverability class as in A, B, C, D, or E. Come on people. Second Edition.

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Kuje
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quote:
Originally posted by aragorn II

No, no, no. Maneuverability class as in A, B, C, D, or E. Come on people. Second Edition.



Complete Book of Elves from 2e says C.

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aragorn II
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Posted - 17 Jun 2004 :  20:54:51  Show Profile  Visit aragorn II's Homepage Send aragorn II a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Are there any modifications to stats (2nd Edition)

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 17 Jun 2004 :  21:39:55  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by aragorn II

No, no, no. Maneuverability class as in A, B, C, D, or E. Come on people. Second Edition.



Please forgive this lowly scribe for not quickly giving you the information you desired in the proper format. I can only hope you forgive my lapse of manners.
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aragorn II
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Posted - 18 Jun 2004 :  15:17:14  Show Profile  Visit aragorn II's Homepage Send aragorn II a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am very sorry for being ungrateful and rude to you guys when you gave me information. I also thank you all for the information and links you have supplied.

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aragorn II
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Posted - 08 Jul 2004 :  19:16:42  Show Profile  Visit aragorn II's Homepage Send aragorn II a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How were Avariel created?

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Arravis
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Posted - 08 Jul 2004 :  19:24:58  Show Profile  Visit Arravis's Homepage Send Arravis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't beleive that's really been covered by any of the sources... they seem to have come with the original migration of elves. So they're probably not a "hybrid" sort of creature.
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brjr2001
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Posted - 08 Jul 2004 :  19:46:25  Show Profile  Visit brjr2001's Homepage Send brjr2001 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Avariel are a complex Race. Ive read a book (dun remember which) that talked about how the Avariel were close to extinction because of a disease that destroyed thier wings completly. also they have been known to been a precious rare thing to sell too as slaves to kings and lords.

on second thought lets not go to candlekeep it is a silly place
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 08 Jul 2004 :  21:19:26  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by brjr2001

The Avariel are a complex Race. Ive read a book (dun remember which) that talked about how the Avariel were close to extinction because of a disease that destroyed thier wings completly.



Please let me know if you can recall the source for this information.

quote:

also they have been known to been a precious rare thing to sell too as slaves to kings and lords.



That theme is touched upon briefly in Lisa Smedman's aforementioned novel, Heirs of Prophecy.

Edited by - SiriusBlack on 08 Jul 2004 21:21:21
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brjr2001
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Posted - 08 Jul 2004 :  21:36:26  Show Profile  Visit brjr2001's Homepage Send brjr2001 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
no prob sirius ill try finding the book

on second thought lets not go to candlekeep it is a silly place
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 08 Jul 2004 :  21:43:34  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by brjr2001

no prob sirius ill try finding the book



Thank you. It sounds interesting so I look forward to hearing more if you are successful.
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