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Dargoth
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Posted - 22 May 2005 :  01:21:45  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Which authors (Meaning those who havent written for the FR before) do you think would write a good FR novel?

My vote would go to Timothy Zahn author of the Thrawn Trilogy of SW novels.

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I think an George R. R. Martin would write an amazing novel if given the right region. Something like Cormyr or the Dalelands and their battles with Zhentil Keep, Darkhold, and dealings with Sembia.

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Wooly Rupert
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Has Krash written any novels?

Zahn would be a good choice... A couple of other personal faves that I think could do good novels, assuming they were familiar with the setting:

Raymond E Feist
Margaret Weis & Tracy Hickman
Michael Stackpole

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Arivia
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Charles De Lint-no contest.

Oh, and we'd likely never get an RSE out of something he wrote...

Neal Stephenson would be nice, too.
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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Has Krash written any novels?
That would be nice .

As an aside, I wouldn't mind seeing Steven Schend try his hand at writing a complete novel. As I recall, he's only written one short story which appeared in the Realms of the Deep anthology -- namely "Persana's Blade".

quote:
Margaret Weis & Tracy Hickman
Both perfectly acceptable choices, at least to me. Although, I'd prefer an FR novel by Hickman rather than Weis, because Hickman has a more adaptable writing style.

quote:
Michael Stackpole
I'd figured you'd bring him up, and I was actually intending on doing the same before I read your reply . Stackpole's fantasy writings are really an acquired taste though, and I have the feeling from them that he'd be better suited to writing about Athas or Krynn, rather than Toril.

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Well i have one recommendation:
Richard A.Knaack(quite famous already for writing many popular novels.)

This author is highly recommended for he had written many novels that had now become among the best novels in the world.


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quote:
Originally posted by StromLancer
Well i have one recommendation:
Richard A.Knaack(quite famous already for writing many popular novels.)

This author is highly recommended for he had written many novels that had now become among the best novels in the world.



Yes, I agree with StromLancer. Richard A.Knaack is indeed a fantastic author, a sad thing that he never wrote any FR novels though he wrote many fanstastic Dragonlance novels.

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Posted - 22 May 2005 :  12:36:58  Show Profile  Visit The Blue Sorceress's Homepage Send The Blue Sorceress a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm going to second the call for Timothy Zahn.

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George Krashos
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Steven Schend for an FR novel, definitely.

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Lynn Flewelling would be cool, if she knows the setting. "The Bone Doll's Twin" was refreshing.
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khorne
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If Robert Jordan was given free rein with the amount of pages in his book, he would definitely write a winner.

Knaak is also good. Day Of The Dragon is fantastic.

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Posted - 23 May 2005 :  00:42:51  Show Profile  Visit Brian R. James's Homepage Send Brian R. James a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My vote would be for Janny Wurtz

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The Hooded One
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To The Sage: interesting. Michael Stackpole wrote a novel that he showed to Ed at a GenCon (in published form, from another publisher, as a stand-alone fantasy) and said he'd wanted it to be a Realms novel, but couldn't come to agreement with TSR...
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Realmslore

My vote would be for Janny Wurtz



I've not read anything she did by herself... My only familiarity with her stuff is the Empire trilogy she co-wrote with Feist.

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

To The Sage: interesting. Michael Stackpole wrote a novel that he showed to Ed at a GenCon (in published form, from another publisher, as a stand-alone fantasy) and said he'd wanted it to be a Realms novel, but couldn't come to agreement with TSR...
love,
THO

Well, that is interesting. Thank you for sharing Lady Hooded One. Could you possibly tell us perhaps where the novel may have been based if it went ahead?

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

To The Sage: interesting. Michael Stackpole wrote a novel that he showed to Ed at a GenCon (in published form, from another publisher, as a stand-alone fantasy) and said he'd wanted it to be a Realms novel, but couldn't come to agreement with TSR...
love,
THO

Well, that is interesting. Thank you for sharing Lady Hooded One. Could you possibly tell us perhaps where the novel may have been based if it went ahead?




Since it's published, could you share the name? Stackpole is one of my fave authors.

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SirUrza
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TSR huh? I wonder if it was Once A Hero. Has to be one of Mike's best novels. I'd love to see Mike write some Realms material, his Star Wars work was great IMHO.

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Melfius
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John Varley could do a good one. I loved the Gaea trilogy. Maybe Gregory Maguire.

I'd also like to have seen Stephen King do a Ravenloft novel.

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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 23 May 2005 :  18:40:56  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Melfius

I'd also like to have seen Stephen King do a Ravenloft novel.



You think if we drafted a letter to Stephen King PLEADING with him to write a Ravenloft novel, succeeded, then sent it back to WotC they might bring back Ravenloft? Just a thought.

I agree about Stackpole -- I think his style's quite appopriate for the world, though he'd have to do more with less (meaning that his novels tend to cover about the same amount of time, but on a larger scale, and with double the page count of a standard WotC book). Not that his current scale / length is a bad thing, not at all.

You know who'd write a killer FR novel? David Gemmell.

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Wooly Rupert
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You know, I can't echo the calls for Stephen King. The man is imaginative and tells a good story, but once you get past his early stuff, I can't stand his writing style.

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Lord Rad
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Posted - 23 May 2005 :  22:56:00  Show Profile  Visit Lord Rad's Homepage Send Lord Rad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

You know, I can't echo the calls for Stephen King. The man is imaginative and tells a good story, but once you get past his early stuff, I can't stand his writing style.



Well i've never got around to reading any of King's novels as the novels based on his movies often go really bad about 3/4 the way through! Prior to that point, it's all very good.

I exclude Misery in that statement however - fantastic throughout.

I'll go with Erik on his call for Gemmell though

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I'd vote for Elizabeth Moon since I love everything she writes, but I hope it never happens as I'm waiting for her next book and I wouldn't want her bogged down with FR stuff.

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Lord Rad

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

You know, I can't echo the calls for Stephen King. The man is imaginative and tells a good story, but once you get past his early stuff, I can't stand his writing style.



Well i've never got around to reading any of King's novels as the novels based on his movies often go really bad about 3/4 the way through! Prior to that point, it's all very good.

I exclude Misery in that statement however - fantastic throughout.

I'll go with Erik on his call for Gemmell though



From what I've seen, you can't base King's work on the movies. Most of the Stephen King movies I've seen were horribly, horribly mangled versions of something resembling the book.

I can't comment on Misery, though. I hated the book, so I didn't bother with the movie.

And before Big Al comes in, I know someone else I'd like to see write a Realms novel: J. Michael Straczynski. I've not read his novels (I think he has one or two), but I've read some of his comics and watched his show, Babylon 5. That's enough to convince me he could knock out an excellent Realms novel.

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Lina
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I'd like to see George R R Martin and Robert Jordan try their hand at writing FR novels. However, I also think they'd have trouble squeezing 3 or more volumes into a slim novel since they like lots of details and working up plots and characters.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

And before Big Al comes in, I know someone else I'd like to see write a Realms novel: J. Michael Straczynski. I've not read his novels (I think he has one or two), but I've read some of his comics and watched his show, Babylon 5. That's enough to convince me he could knock out an excellent Realms novel.
I'll definitely second that . J. Michael Straczynski has shown a great ability to adapt to many different types of genres... not least of which is his most recent work in the Spider-Man comic.

In fact, not that we like them all that much, but if there is to be another RSE coming on the horizon, I believe that Straczynski could handle the task of writing it most admirably.

Now, where's Big Al ...

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I think that if he used the same types of ideas that went into Eyes of the Dragon, King would be great.

I've never actually read any of Geroge R. R. Martin's novels, but I am a BIG fan of the Wild Card books.

If WotC could scrape together the cash, it would be interesting to see an anthology book of short stories done by big name authors.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Now, where's Big Al ...




Right here, Sage

Worry not, for this is a very worthy topic and an interesting discussion indeed. I agree with a number of authors listed herein, George R R Martin, David Gemmell. I have yet to read any of Timothy Zahn's material and know not of what he has written other than SW, but hear he is a very good author. It would be interesting to see how a sci-fi author deals with fantasy. I quite agree on the points about Stephen King however. Again, Misery being the exception

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quote:
Originally posted by Lina

I'd like to see George R R Martin and Robert Jordan try their hand at writing FR novels. However, I also think they'd have trouble squeezing 3 or more volumes into a slim novel since they like lots of details and working up plots and characters.

I second this! As I already said once before: Robert Jordan+his attention to detail+very much realmslore+800 or more pages=a real winner!!!

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quote:
Originally posted by Melfius

I think that if he used the same types of ideas that went into Eyes of the Dragon, King would be great.

I've never actually read any of Geroge R. R. Martin's novels, but I am a BIG fan of the Wild Card books.

If WotC could scrape together the cash, it would be interesting to see an anthology book of short stories done by big name authors.



Melfius, here's what you need to do. Call out of work today, turn your computer and television off, put down any book you are currently reading and pick up Song of Ice and Fire by George R. R. Martin. You will not regret it.

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quote:
Originally posted by Lina

I'd like to see George R R Martin and Robert Jordan try their hand at writing FR novels. However, I also think they'd have trouble squeezing 3 or more volumes into a slim novel since they like lots of details and working up plots and characters.



Actually, both Martin and Jordan have written short stories in the Legends 1 anthology, and both were good, Martin's especially. (However, Jordan recently went back to his short story to lengthen it). So I think both are capable of writing full FR novels, even if Jordan's is likely to consist 80% of descriptions of clothes and women haughtily sniffing at everyone.
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quote:
Originally posted by Chosen of Bane

quote:
Originally posted by Melfius

I think that if he used the same types of ideas that went into Eyes of the Dragon, King would be great.

I've never actually read any of Geroge R. R. Martin's novels, but I am a BIG fan of the Wild Card books.

If WotC could scrape together the cash, it would be interesting to see an anthology book of short stories done by big name authors.



Melfius, here's what you need to do. Call out of work today, turn your computer and television off, put down any book you are currently reading and pick up Song of Ice and Fire by George R. R. Martin. You will not regret it.

It will blow your mind!



You know, my assistant at work says much the same thing!

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